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Originally Posted by LongDTravis
Two questions one personal and one for a friend.
For friend
Are you supposed to tip slot attendants on a handpay? If so how much?
Personal
If tournament has a dealer add-on, do they expect a tip at the end too? I'm playing my first tournament in ages soon and may just sit out because I don't think they are good value if there is some kind of tipping obligation on tourney cashes.
It's always up to you whomever you tip. Years ago, I got my 1st royal in video poker and it was on a 50c machine. $2k payout, hand pay. I think I toked $40. Less than an hour later, I hit my 2nd royal, on quarters, a progressive, $2300+. I think I toked $50 on that, but maybe it was a hundo feeling extra happy with 2 in a day.
As fas as "dealer add on" and tipping. For me I look at it as upfront juice. Tournaments that have a "dealer add on" are notoriously high in juice already. Often 30% or more. For a player, this is unbeatable long term. I don't care how bad the players are. The best players will only cash in the 18% area. The "add on" generally speaking is there because without it, the dealers mostly make a horrible hourly from the tournnaments, $6 per down not out of the ordinary. The $5-10 add on, may actually only add $2 per down to the dealers pay. In some casino's they may get $12-14 per down with the add on and regular juice. It's hard to say. But it's less than dealing cash games for the most part.
******Don't think every 30 mins is worth the toke rate. It isn't. 2-3 tables and a 30 min break. Sometimes more downs, some times less downs, between breaks. I worked 6 hrs today, dealt 8 downs. That's 4 hrs of actual work. Forced out at 6 hrs due to not enough business, new shift coming in. This is normal.
Personally, if the juice is over 20% (I would bet it is), I wouldn't tip unless I took 1st or 2nd, and even then, it wouldn't be a lot. But that's coming from a long term perspective and too high, unsustainable juice to beat. And I'm a good tipping dealer!
One caveat to above. Say the tournament is $125 buy in. $25 juice, and $3% of prize pool to "staff" (includes everyone in the room, including the porter). That's $28 on a $125 buy in. Crazy high, and normal today. But if it had attendence that gave me $3k for say 4th, on up to say $15k+ for 1st, as a dealer myself, I'd probablly tip $100 for 4th, $200 3rd, $300 -400 2nd (about 11k) and $500 for 5th. But that's a fairly big field and + side payday. If they had a $20 "dealer add on" I'd likely tip 1/2 to 3/4 that amount.