I can pretty much promise you that you didn't teach the dealers the intended lesson. They probably thought you were just a guy who doesn't tip.

I don't get the bit about 3 stacks either. You keep one (or more) stack of reds and then a few loose $1 and $2 chips. When someone bets $18 you put in 3 reds, 1 white and 1 of whatever color the $2 chips are (in Florida they're generally yellow or purple). Or 2 reds and 4 yellows if you hate the $2 chips that much. There's no reason for a player to ever have more than 10 of any non - primary chip denomination unless he's a hoarder.

i dont like ANY stacks with only a tiny tiny amount of chips. what i like is to have about 2-3 full stacks of reds, with about $15-20 all in $1 chips on the side so i dont have a stack of almost 0 chips in it. its very easy to do this in any game except those that use $2 chips. and id think it would slow the game down alot constantly making change breaking $2 chips so people can call the correct bet if they have no ones.

its a nuisance putting $1 and $2 chips in the same pile too

A "stack of almost zero chips" is one chip. You put that chip on one or across multiple red stacks. Then you either use it when you can or create a new stack once you accumulate more.

You are insane to be "extremely annoyed" by this and should seek help.

I'm imagining you receiving your first white chip from a pot after using up your "$15–20" in reserves and being totally confused about where you should put it. Do you **** yourself and fall out of your chair?

sometimes ive got 1 stack of reds of less than $100 and i dont want like 1-2 oddball chips on it. now if u have multiple stacks of reds, then u have room. but i hate digging to get the chips out of the stack if i want to say bet $20 and theres 1-2 chips on top. i just like to keep full size stacks of $1 chips.

im 100% not the only one who feels this way. ive heard multiple others complain about $2 chips in the pot too. u dont hear about it in florida because theyve all moved out of town so they wont have to deal with it anymore. but u do hear them mention it here in NV.

i never use up the $10-20 in reserve $1 chips. anytime i have less than $10, i put in a red to call the $2 bringin and the dealer gives me change.

Just had a situation where I got screwed out of a pot by a dealer. I had tabled my hand and should have been awarded the low but he awarded it to a different player. I was kind of distracted cause I was moving games but I realized it before the next hand but the dealer did not seem to care. Now my response is to never tip this dealer ever again. I was not even that mad about the error but the dealer's response of looking at me like he did not care at all made me mad. If he apologized at least I probably would not take such a drastic action. What does everyone think about not tipping this dealer?

A guy who is too "lazy" to say "chop" when handing a $2 chip to a dealer doesn't tip larger than a buck on big pots? I've never seen it. Dealers, what say ye?

6/12 chip games are very loose. Just my experience and I've played in lots of them and never saw a rock garden. Your sample size is 0.

Dealers:
In your room which game has more loose reckless gamblers in it, the red 10/20 fixed limit or the red 20/40 fixed limit?

What did the dealer say when you pointed out his (and your) error? Usually if you catch things like that before the start of the next hand they will call the floor and correct it. Did he dispute you had the winning hand or claim it was too late to fix it? Dealers miss things sometimes, as we all do, so a forever ban on tips seems pretty harsh to me unless he was somehow rude or insulting.

So how exactly did it play out after you pointed out the mistake?

If any dealers are slumming in this thread, I would like to hear their take on their power to effect such a change.

Apologize for what?

You were beat for low.
You didn't complain when the pot was awarded.

I assume the board and hands were mucked by the time you complained.
I assume that nobody else at the table backed up your claim.

Why would a dealer apologize when he thought he didn't do anything wrong?

He did not say one word. I stated what happened but he said nothing. He just stood there in silence. I decided to just leave to go to another game cause he looked kind of mad that I even said anything about it.


Other players did back up my claim.

Something doesnt make sense. You originally said you missed the mistake because you were in the process of moving to another game. Now you say you decided to move to the other game because he looked mad after you called him out on the mistake.

How big was the pot? I dont really understand how you raise a complaint and a dealer says nothing at all And you dont demand an answer or call the floor? It all seems very odd. But if the pot was so insignificant to you to not even bother to get a response to your question, then It doesnt seem worth stiffing the dealer forever over.

I think he means that because the dealer looked mad he just took the seat at the other game he was getting ready to move to rather than persist in trying to get his half.

As usual, whenever anyone is handling your money, pay attention. If I table a winner, then the pot is no longer the pot; it's my money, and I'm going to make sure it's shipped in the correct direction.

What I meant was I just moved on instead of calling the floor over. I did not want to slow a game up that I was leaving. But the dealer did not say anything to me. I found it odd to be honest. The pot was about 12 Big bets. I would have won half of that. It was around 65-70 dollars I should have won.

OK, I see. Thanks. Back to the dealer tipping issue, I dont think you should be too hard on him in that you also missed that your hand was best, and ulimately the final responsibility is yours. But to a broader point, if I have something bothering me like that with a dealer, I prefer to talk to him away from the table and air it out. IMO it's best to work out problems directly than let them linger. Life's too short to carry grudges over little things. And every time he deals to you in the future there will be tension.

So just clear the air face to face. Most dealers try to do their best and dont set out to screw players. He may have just had a bad day and was embarrassed when you caught the mistake. So have a quick chat, and forget about it.

You are probably right. I am not one to hold grudges. I usually do not miss hands but I was called to go to another game. A game I had to have a seat for because I knew I could make a good deal of money in. (Which I ended up doing.) Plus if I missed it I may have had to wait a while.

This is seriously the weirdest thing I've read in this thread in a long while. I'd respond with "lol you really think that?" but it's clear that you do. And then you say people have picked up and moved out of state to avoid this? Just, wow.

Lol, at people moving so they don't have to deal with $2 chips. "Sorry kids, but I need to uproot the family so I don't have to deal with $2 chips."

So basically if the hand before left you with 9 whites, you just limp in with anything to get 3 more whites? What a strategy.

Cards speak. If you had the winner there should be no problem for the house to require the player that did not actually win to give you the money, even several hands later. How is this any different than a player getting paid on a hand in blackjack that they did not win and the house making the player give the money back (sometimes the next time they come in months later)?

If you need to be looking away from the table when you are certain you are going to be awarded the pot, then keep your hands on your cards so the dealer can't muck them (yes, even if this is S8).

The good thing is that you noticed the error before the next was dealt, and, in one of your follow up posts you said that others at the table were also backing up your claim. Good. "Dealer, please call the Floor over here immediately before you deal the next hand---you should've pushed me the pot for the low but you accidentally pushed it to Jim."

I wouldn't even sweat the fact that the dealer didn't look apologetic enough; to be honest, I'm done with all of that nonsense---most of them aren't your friends anyway and they are doing a lot of things at once, and, they're human, so, I try not to take any of that stuff personal. As long as you take care of #1 and worry about what's really important here(and that's obviously the ~$70 owed to you) then you'll probably be better off.

As to whether or not you're going to tip this dealer again? I would, but maybe I'll think twice before I give him a buck on those smallish pots or an extra buck when he pushes me a larger pot.

You don't need to be a dealer to know that a $20/40 LHE game will have WAY more reckless players in it, AINEC.

I used to play the $7.50/$15 pink chip game at the Trop years ago which used $2.50 chips and you weren't allowed to bring any other chips into play(aside from the $1 chips used for tipping...but nobody tipped $1, everyone just tossed them a pink! What a scam!). These pots looked enormous and the play was SUPER LOOSE! but every time I'd go to cash out thinking I left "big winners", I'd be like, "wtf, I only won $137?"

In what I'm sure is much more limited experience compared to Rush, the 20/40 I've played has been way looser than the 10/20 I've played at the same locations.

Of course, but it seems he'll take the word of a dealer over a fellow player, so I inquired for him. And if 30/60 was played 6/12 in red, then it'd be better than the 20/40. Add in a kill of some type and sick degens will hear the clatter of a huge pot being pushed from miles away - like dog ears but tuned the sound of chips being pushed instead.

I've played lots of 20/40 and lots of 10/20 (years of each). The 20/40 games are always more aggressive, but the 10/20 are always looser. When I played 5/10 it was looser still (but low sample size in that).