*winning. FML got auto-corrected.

Don't tip if you don't want, but realize your logic for not doing so doesn't make much sense to anyone. Then again, you're the guy that thinks when two guys are allin preflop that they should be able to split the cheddar from the limpers who folded using equity chops rather than running the hand out, so I guess you're an outside-the-box thinker, cheers.

90% confident this account is a troll, but anyway:

Why don't you do that? Really, go ahead and try. See how it works out for ya.

I think that tipping is really just there to drive the costs onto the consumer rather than the employer. It has worked wonders and now the companies can pay their employees like garbage. I would rather have a flat fee so I am not always perplexed on what I should tip. I hate going to a restaurant and get a bill for like 12. I feel like I got to tip $5.

Bring a chick with you so you can tip $5, otherwise $2-$3 is fine.

I was being sarcastic. If the dealer is someone who is going to take food off of my plate, I will return the favor.

It's the same as borrowing money from your employees. You'd be "****ting where you eat".

If you went to a hand car wash (let's say hypothetically that tips are accepted) and you sold watches for a living. The same employee that washed your car is giving out coupons doing cross-promotion with another watch shop (who happens to be a direct competitor of yours) for commission based on the sale of watches, are you going to tip him? Are you even going to give him your business?.

I can't think of an example as pure as the one in question itself: Poker, the purest form of capitalism in the world.

You're a commercial landlord with small tenants selling anything from clothes, sporting goods, perfumes, accessories, etc. It is a small mall. They pay you monthly rent. The more business they make, the less likely they are to vacate the rent space, the more chances you have to increase rent at the year's end.

Are you going to use that money to open up a ****ing Wal-Mart right across the street?

Same concept. Except in Poker it is easier to turn over new players than it is to turn over new tenants.

If off-duty dealers are taking food off your plate, then you need to consider a new line of work.

You never answered this.

Why are people engaging MTT? albedoa was right 20 posts ago

I'm sure everyone will be shocked to know that he's had multiple accounts banned previously.

GASP

If he's previously banned why is he allowed to AIDS up multiple threads at once?

Being a ****ty poster isn't really against the rules, but if you think he should be re-banned state your case in the Moderation Discussion Thread and we'll consider it.

If you play poker, you are probably not what some people call a "math player."

As a dealer I can confirm that if off duty dealers are taking food off your table, then you are a terrible poker player

The reality is most service is less than stellar, and most tipping is due to obligation of custom or compensation of low wages.

Seeing how someone uses those tips could take away the feeling of obligation of custom or the compassion to compensate service that was less than gratifying.

I also think most service people think being polite and having common curtousy is above and beyond service

Well, for me, because I depend so much on the accuracy from these dealers?..just being polite isn't going to cut it and it's certainly not more important than the actual "mechanics" of their job description, but, it's definitely a step in the right direction. Nothing worse than a bad dealer with a bad attitude and who feels they "know it all." However, if you're a bad dealer but you happen to have a really nice personality? Then there's a real good chance of that dealer being open to constructive criticism and improving in their trade.

I've personally taken dealers aside and explained some of the key things, that, if they could improve upon, that they would really be making a huge difference in the box; and the nice ones did appreciate it and they did change.

I'd rather tip every single dealer that sits down because they deserved the tip opposed to not feeling obligated to because they suck.

I'm in a situation where I play underground games or in 2 casinos only. I play regularly with all the dealers in the underground games and generally have no problems winning, losing, or tipping.

However, the casinos both have policy where dealers can't play in their home casino and end up at the other on a regular basis. There is one particular dealer who angle shoots, berates dealers, is rude to rec players, and has slow rolled a few people including myself.

I have joked about how I would tip if I hit the BBJ but am curious what would be good response. In general I have always tipped him well ($1 or $2 per hand) but never given him any extra tip. I'm a nice guy so I usually just say wtf but he is over the top. He has a significant rep as being a real villain.

How would y'all approach an extremely rude angle shooter? I play with him at events maybe 4 times a year and am in his casino probably 10 times a year. Is there any value in talking to him? I really think he is bad for his room (although in the box he is very courteous, tho slightly sarcastic) but really for the game. It would suck to deal with him as a rec but the regs also sink to his level at times which makes the games not as fun and I'm sure slightly dirty for the players.

THE SITUATION:

It's 2:27am at the Seminole Hard Rock Tampa. The current high hand is QQQQx and I'm playing an O8 game where you have to flop the high hand for it to qualify.

Every 30 minutes the high hand resets and the 2:30am-3am slot is the last high hand being awarded for the night.

I flop AAAJJ and we get to the river on the hand and it's 2:28am. The action is on me and I'm heads-up with one opponent, who looks at me and gives me that "wtf, it's your turn to act" look.

I ask him if he minds if I think about my hand for two minutes. Other players start saying "if you've got four Aces you can beat four Queens" and I say "I can't beat four Queens"

The dealer keeps quiet and everyone waits for the time to pass. at 2:30am I get my hand on the board for high hand, but I still have to sweat another 30 minutes where it could easily get beat by any of the other tables in play.

THE QUESTIONS

The dealer in question will be moving off our table soon, what do I tip him when I don't have a lock on the high hand in this spot?

Also, my hand wound up holding up for a $500 high hand payout. Do I give the other guy who was in the hand with me anything or any of the other players at the table who waited? I'm not sure what the etiquette is on this?

a. Unless the dealer is going home after that down, he will still be dealing when/if you get paid. You can find him then. If you are a regular at that room, you will see him on a later date and can do your tipping then.

b. As to the players who "waited", a simple "Thanks guys" should suffice. Maybe offer to pay the rake for the next hand.

Thank you, what tip would be considered appropriate for a $500 high hand jackpot win? fwiw, I wound up tossing him $4 before he left because I felt semi-confident I could hold given there were less tables competing with me at that hour.

Well, the three minutes you spent just sitting there probably cost him an extra hand. I would have at least tossed him an extra couple bucks at the end of that hand you made everyone sit there for no matter what.

If it held up, maybe 5 or 10 bucks? I'm an overtipper and would probably have given him at least a green bird but I wouldn't expect everyone to, and I also wouldn't think someone crazy for giving him 50 (10%) but that seems a bit steep for me.


I also agree that a "Thanks everyone, I would do the same for you guys in the same situation" is plenty for your tablemates.

Maybe you should tip the guy who later got Aces full of Tens (or whatever hand should have won), but actually in the correct half hour, who you screwed out of $500 by your unethical behavior.