Sure it is, but what about floor people who deal half the time and floor half the time? Even if you don't toke them on the floor, your toking policy when they are in the box will have an influence, no?

They're not supposed to. If you have a problem with a "decision" that a dealer is making, call the floor. He can't refuse it. If a dealer is making a "decision", then you're the one allowing it.

Dealers can easily still bias the project. Some dealers call floors with no one particularly asking. Also, the floor generally asks for the dealer's perspective first, which could then be biased.

Also an important point that in many places, the same individuals do both jobs at times.

The tipped floor does much more then just make rulings such as let you sit at a table that you want while leaving another table shorter, letting you change tables when the lists are long or letting you choose between tables etc.

When it comes down to a ruling they are going to make it correct because they are under the gun in front of everyone. They're not going to be biased and give you an unfair ruling just because you tipped them.

All of that stuff in the first paragraph above is still "under the gun" in front of everyone. The second paragraph, yeah, if you toke $1-$5 here and there, then no; when you start toking $25-$100 every time you walk in, then the tune changes, but they still won't make an amazingly bad ruling (i.e., job income and benefits better than regular tokes).

+1. I come from a jurisdiction where supervisors and above are not allowed to accept tips, so it was a shock to me in California and Las Vegas when I saw these "judges" hustling for tips.

When I was out in LA, I was allowed to toke the Floor people. I didn't get any "special treatment" in the game or had a ruling that should've been ruled against me go in favor, but, when my name was called for my game, they DID come and find me, they DID take my jacket and put it on the back of my chair(that wasn't necessary but it was nice), and they DID inform me as to when the games started in the morning, and they just basically told me about the room and the free food service and whatnot; in other words, I got true customer service. Was all that worth the $20 I gave him? To me it was.

And anyone who uses your toke as their signal to be unfair to someone else, is not necessarily the majority. Floor people may be judges but that's not all they do. Imo, when you're allowed to accept tokes, you naturally perform better. I like this. And I agree with the incentive behind it.

Are NJ and PA floors allowed to accept tips? Honestly, I never thought about tipping the floors. I don't recall ever seeing anyone tip one.

They are not

I think tipping floors almost never gets favorable rulings but I think it does sometimes help table transfers/advice on games/advice about players/longer lockups/possibly moved up lists etc that is not always fair to get. That being said if u treat people well in any aspect of life I think they'll go out of their way to help u out more then others and that is only human nature.

Most of the floors getting tipped a lot WOULDNT promote favoritism as well which is why people tip them... They do their job well.

That's not why people tip floors.

Enlighten us.

Fair enough. That's not why I tip floors.

Again, enlighten us. Why do YOU tip floors then?

fyp

hopefully they will but only in a Land O FLakes and not irl. Isn't this called cheating and collusion?

Even though you play the douche card very well here, it's a pretty reasonable suspicion. However, I do not toke floors for table disputes; in fact, it's been at least 15 years since I've had a floor come to my table for a dispute that I was personally involved in.

Enough LOL. If you're going to continue to dodge the question of why YOU DO tip the floors, then drop it.

Just to clarify something for me about the way people are using the term floors in regards to tipping. Where I play, we have brushes who handle sign ups, call names for lists, do transfers, or would know which are the good tables to go to. Our floors sort of stand around waiting for decisions about hands to be made, or to handle angry players disrupting games, and help keep everything flowing by supervising brushes/dealers.

So when some are talking about tipping floors, is it at places where there are no brushes, and floors handle the lists/transfers, etc? Are they like combo floor/brushes? Our floors can't be tipped, but since their major function is making rulings, that would seem a strange time to tip someone anyway. People do tip our brushes regularly.

To be honest I've never fully understood what a brush does. I just refer to anyone who isn't a dealer as a floor. In the places I've played in AC there doesn't seem to be a difference. Floors seem to handle everything.

At the Borgata in AC, the brush is the person standing behind the podium who puts you name on a list and calls you when you get to the top.

They don't act as floors? Most of my live experience was from the Borgata until recently and I always thought it was weird that other places have brushes and chip runners. Borgata just sells your rebuys and add ons from the dealer tray and they do fills when needed.

Our brushes wear yellow long sleeve shirts, and are sort of the worker bees. They bring fills to dealers, sometimes get player chips if dealer is out, handles lists and transfers. Our supervisors wear black suits. You would never ask a suit for a table change, for example. That would be a brush thing, and considered below a suits level. Though to be fair, when busy a suit will fill in to help out where needed like getting fills or taking list names if brushes are tied up.

Our room has 50 tables. I guess in a small room it might not make sense to have a separate brush job.

Wasnt trying to be a douche but I would hope they arent bribes, or I could possibly be on the losing end of a "bad call" due to someones hanky panky. just imagine what baseball would be like if the owners were allowed to "tip" the home plate umpires.

It's more like I thank the umps when they inform me of a good pickup game I should come to the park and check out.

Not to derail but I play there 2-4 weekends per month, every month, and those people are (almost?) always also the floor.