Playing a $360 tournament at a charity casino venue and this situation came up at table. I'm not involved but still

We are at the river. Player a in seat 1shoves. Player b in seat 7 goes in tank
1 minute in, player A gets disgruntled and says loudly "nice call i missed my drawand picks up his cards and looks at them but does not muck or table, acting like player b had called (had not made any action yet)
Player b then says i hadnt called yet... but i guess call
Player a shows top set
Player b calls floor saying player a "relinquished his hand when he said nice call i missed"
Player a says he did miss his boat draw and did nothing against rules

What is ruling? Seems fairly standard? But want some opions?
Player a gets pot+ allin call
Player a gets pot without but without additional allin amount of chips on river
Player b gets full pot
Does player a get penalty?

Since Player a never mucked his hand, his hand is still live, therefore Player a gets the pot + all-in call. But that was a real douchey thing to do; hopefully the poker gods frown on him for a while.

Live hand, but a slimy way to win... he gets the pot plus all in call

Live hand.

Anybody with 10 hours of live experience would see through Player A's act and know he was begging for a call.

Player A gets the pot + call.

I'm all about calling out douches, but I actually love what he said here, and if Player B is stupid enough to fall for it, Bravo to Player A! Player B was being the douche here by stalling, and a double douche by trying to get opponent's hand killed.

dn't see how his comments can be construed as relinquishing his hand. Pretty standard table talk imho.

After 1 minute, table talk is allowed.

"I missed..." never constitutes a fold. Ive seen many say this and still call bets.

If the guy is a reg DB I may say something along lines of "please watch what you say in the future"

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hahaha Player B is dumb and desperate. Points for trying go to him, pot goes to Player A obviously.

Another example of "The Speech". Experienced players usually know what this means most of the time. Or they should. To call the floor on this is a bit silly unless you and the floor are "connected" somehow and that would be a real stretch regardless.

Most tournaments have rules against discussing the cntents of your hand and I would penalize player a for that. But the hand is live.

This is where I was going ... Seat 1 wins pot unless there is a tournament rule in play otherwise. This is VERY standard in cash play. GL

Ruling is that A shoved, B called and the best hand wins the pot.

No penalty.

Sounds like B is upset, but unfairly so. If B only made the call because of the table talk, then they were trying to take advantage of A, and deserve to lose the extra chips.

A gets the full pot plus a possible penalty based on the house rules regarding talking about your hand (For example, TDA is pretty strict).

Player B is just as scummy as Player A here. He basically tried to get the floor to let him freeroll a call. You can't see that you lost and then cry foul.

player a gets the pot and a penalty for influencing action

I played in a tournament today and they had a rule that players may not discuss hands, even if heads up. Not sure what the ruling would have been here, I imagine they wouldnt have given player A the all-in call amount. I'm curious why? What is the reasoning behind that if you are head's up?

Yea I had forgot OP was a tourney...A could have been penalized for discussing hand, some may give a warning.

You can never discuss hands in a tourney no matter what... Even if HU. There are a few reasons but one big one can be soft play potential. Its not much a big deal in most cash games because the outcome is mostly inconsequential to the other players

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Usually the player gets the whole pot including the all-in call anyway and receives a penalty after the hand.

Unless the tourney itself is down to only two players a hand is nevery really heads up. Every hand impacts all the players.

it's an angle shoot but he still gets the pot and probably gets a warning. I've seen this same angle in a live game, floor was called and gave him a warning.

Player A gets the whole pot including the all in call. Any other ruling is terribly wrong. I don't penalize A, but warn him not to discuss the contents of his hand. True or false.

This for me. Pretty slimy angle by seat 1, but seat 2 fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

If this angle is something that bothers you, then quietly speak to the floor in private about it. What the floor does about it (if anything) will be completely dependent on house rules. Unless there's a strict house rule in place about killing a hand if a player verbally gives ANY information about their holdibgs, seat 1 has the winning hand and is awarded the pot.

Personally, if I was at a tournament table and saw this happen, I'd make my feelings well known to seat 1 that it was a scum bag move. Then again I've never been one to be afraid of telling anybody how I feel about something, especially at a poker table.

Player A gets the full amount and B gets a warning for tanking.

You have a pretty low bar for slimy. How do you feel about check-raises?

Really? Holding your cards up in the air and proclaiming "I missed" while an opponent is tanking is now the equivalent to a c/r? Right.

I'm not saying that Player 2 didn't totally get owned here, because he did. Anyone with any awareness at a poker table would see right through this angle for what it is. I just think it's a pretty sumny angle, but that's just my opinion.