I hardly ever play live. I was in the middle of a tourney at turning stone when the following happened. We finish playing a hand (the big blind won uncontested)when the dealer says that the blinds and antes increased before that hand although everyone anted at the previous structure (she scooped the antes and dealt the hand). she then instructs everyone at the table to give the winner of the pot the difference in the antes and small blind. i was shocked and admittedly should have called floor then. At the break i talked to the floor guy and he responded "my dealers would've never done that". She definitiley did do this and no one said a word. is this common ?!?

10 deaf people at the table?

They usually make an announcement that the blinds/antes have increased. No tournament clock on the TV screens?

No matter what, the TD should have been called. They make decisions, not dealers.

Its outrageous. Higher antes and bigger blinds might have induced different action.

I have never seen a dealer ask for more chips after a hand was completed.

Many times I have seen a dealer miss ante/blind changes.

You don't retroactively correct blind and ante amounts. The hand could've played out in a completely different way with higher blinds and antes.

The next hand is definitely too late to correct an incorrect bet amount.

Bad dealer.

lolwut? No one said anything?

i have played at TS many times and have never seen a dealer do anything close to this. yeah they have missed blinds going up in the tourneys and get to it on the next hand, but that sounds ridiculous and so wrong, and cannot foresee any of the dealers that have dealt at my table at TS doing that, like the floor supposedly said that his dealers would never do that, and if they did i dont think they would be dealing there in the tourneys or at all much longer

Misread OP; didn't see BB won uncontested, so if you quoted the post I deleted before I deleted it, sorry!

Anyway, after re-reading OP, this still should not have been done. Even if it was done, TD should've been the one to make decision.

No matter what, the TD should have been called. They make decisions, not dealers. +1

I agree with everyone else, the dealer made a huge error by making a decision she had no authority to make.

When dealers make mistakes, they should not try to fix them without a floor being called.

Surprising that out of 10 players, 9 of whom were adversely affected by the decision, NO ONE asked for the floor.

Did they all hear the nnouncement and let it go, thinking they were getting over on the other players?

This is where you point out the dealer who did do this and tell him to ask her for himself.

I've been a dealer and on this issue I will say this:

It's far less of a mistake by a dealer to let one hand play out at the incorrect stakes than it is to ask the players to put in additional chips to rectify the fact a hand was played at below the proper stakes.

Doing the latter presumes the hand would've happened the exact same way at different stakes (unlikely in a tournament) and creates both pissed off players and the absurdity that a shortstacked player may be eliminated from the tournament on account of having to hand the dealer extra chips to rectify the previous hand.

In this situation, it is always the dealer's duty to pay attention to announcements of new stakes. A dealer must be in control of the table, that's their job. If he or she fails to do this and notices during the dealing of a hand, firstly they should STFU about it and keep it to themselves, and on the next hand announce an increase in the stakes as they would on any other occasion. This ensures smooth gameflow and minimum contention by players with the dealer. The last thing you want as a dealer is the players running the game. When this happens, you should've been fired like... yesterday.

No. This is crazy and IMO should have never happened. From the tournaments that I have played it seems they take more than one step to help the dealer every bit. First by showing the tournament time, blinds, avg stack, and how many people are left with big monitors that display this info on the wall. How hard is it to look at between each hand. Second most of the card rooms I've been in, at least in a tourny situation they have different colored decks and the TD or Mgr. announce a deck change between blinds, "blinds are now 50/100 and we are on the red deck" easy way for us as players to make our case. "we were actually at the next blind level but didn't move up so make up the difference fir the antes." "well you were still using the blue deck so blinds and antes stay there" But the floor should have been called. Terrible dealer.

I somewhat disagree with this, believe it or not.

Often times, a dealer involved in a hand will miss the announcement. When you've got three all-ins and you're calculating different side pots, you're focused on that and not paying attention to the constant drone on the PA. If it's a typical small, daily tourney (say, <15 tables, much less the more common <7 tables), the tourney director should go to each table, make eye contact with each dealer, and get a quick confirmation that the message was received.

TD: (catches dealer's eye) Bertha, blinds are up.

DEALER BERTHA: (nods, goes back to dealing)

99 times out of 100, when a dealer misses the message, you can find the TD at his podium, watching tv and joking with his friends....while everyone at the table (who, by the way, have all just missed the same announcement themselves) rags on the dealer.

This is an excellent point. I had this happen just last week. I heard the announcement as I was starting to deal and the announcement meant the NEXT hand would be the higher level.

The hand turned into a 2 minute all in fest with a side pot and then the main pot was split two ways. By the time it was done, I just grabbed the same deck (decks change with levels) and started to shuffle. One of the players told me to change decks and I looked up a the clock to see the new blinds and deck color.

The players had the corrct antes and blinds out, I was the one still living in the past.

I'm not sure how many of you actually have played in a tournament at Turning stone, but this happens a lot. The regs like to get that "extra hand" in at the blind change, especially at the beginning of the tournament. It also doesn't help that many times the program itself only is saying the blinds are up, and if the Poker room is a little bit noisy, you can't hear it four tables away.

Note to self: Don't play at Turning Stone.

When did this happen.. I will be addressing this issue..

I agree with it should be an indivdual nod as such.. During weekly Tournaments. Announcements are made on loud speakers and by Tournament clock. I don't know about the td/floor joking at podium.

The hand turned into a 2 minute all in fest with a side pot and then the main pot was split two ways. By the time it was done, I just grabbed the same deck (decks change with levels) and started to shuffle. One of the players told me to change decks and I looked up a the clock to see the new blinds and deck color.

This does happen all the time no excuse TD/Floor should realize this while walking through tournament area and notice deck color blind levels ect..

Had no idea this was a issue I will look into getting a louder PA system and your correct the poker room when noisy you cant hear the computer generated message.

During Bigger events as you know its different I will make it uniform I have not ran many daily tournaments lately. I don't really hear any complaints but knowing who you are i believe this is a genuine concern.


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In this case, the TD did make eye contact with me and the other 3 dealers still working the tournament. I just forgot between the time the change took place and the end of the hand.

The players corrected me before I had completed 2 riffles.

Our tournament clocks have the blinds, ante's and deck color displayed all the time.

It happens I dealt and did it not going to lie.

But in the OP situation TD/Floor should be called.

This happened several months ago and i feel i am partly to blame for not speaking up right when it happened (my buddy was watching behind me going ape#!@%) She told him to be quiet since he was not playing...rightly so.
Since that day i have always found the dealers and staff to be extremely professional. Chris (short guy) is the best dealer i have ever had anywhere.

... Why are deck colours changed along with blind levels?