Seems legit to me, 3K looks like a lot of money when you are 19 yo but it's not. You can make it in a week-end if you carefuly choose your table at your casino.

Go out there, don't give an intercourse about how many time you have to change table or seat (because poker is about decisions and those are very important one to be able to make profits).

I was recently talking to a tournament grinder I know at my place of work. I mentioned my online bankroll challenge of turning 100 into 1k to start building a roll to play live after that. He said "well, that's half your roll for playing live" and I mentioned the 30BI rule. He said "if you can't make it off ten buy ins then you're doing something wrong".

He is a tournament player so I just shrugged and brushed it off. He doesn't play online either. I'm guessing he hasn't had one of those 10-20 BI swings where you get set over setted, rivered, etc over and over.

I don't think 10 BIs is terrible, but it's definitely aggressive. My point is, it's better to be safe than sorry. Save up enough to have at least 20 BIs (4k) so you can deal with the swings, you know? If you bust you're not only out your smaller roll but you're out of playing poker until you get extra money from your life roll after paying bills and such.

That 4k is 20 buyins at 1/2, so 6k at 1/3

yeah hopefully i can build a roll before online goes down (I just did your challenge. 3 weeks ago i deposited $50, already up to $900 (more in AUD).

I dont have any bills or anything to pay so im okay taking a riskier route, unless i got really unlucky 10 would for sure be enough

hey I'm in a similar position, currently at uni and have started playing 1/3 at crown melbourne, though my roll is like 15k (It may be a bit nitty brm) though i think playing with like 10 BI is acceptable, especially as it shouldn't be too hard to supplement the bankroll with a job. gl

did your roll come from online or from outside of poker?
wish i was in melbourne tbh, more regs (i assume?) which means i think i would be able to get a stake relatively quickly.
also more smaller tournaments which is better for me as ive hardly played a hand of cash in my life (maybe 30k tops)
Plan on going down for the millions and see what happens

Semi grunch.

OP do not attempt to become a live poker pro until you've put in at least 1000 hours. You can't make a decent living playing 1-2/1-3; you need to be playing 2-5/5-10 with a really good winrate before you can realize any sort of good money.

It's so much easier to reach the 2-5/5-10 levels if you get a job and grind poker part time while studying the game on your off time.

Also, trust me when I say you don't want poker to be your only source of income. It can be infinitely more soul crushing than some 9-5 grind in an office.

Check out this video by Andrew Neeme. It puts some things in perspective. Just note that this suffers from confirmation bias as he has already made it as a live poker pro, and the road there is more often abandoned than completed. Also, 5bb/hr in live poker is basically crushing the game; you need to be insanely good to beat 5/10 at 5bb/hr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxNQQ8izIHI

I keep hearing about how soul-crushing poker is but I'm really enjoying it playing 40+ hours a week. Way better than any job I ever had.

Your comments about making good money don't make much sense in the context of this thread. OP is not going to be able to get a "good money" type of job right now.

if there's a time to play underolled it's when you're 19

ten buy ins is absurd if poker is your sole income
even 20 buy ins is absurd if you're trying to make a living at the game

but for a 19 year old if he goes busto who cares all 19 year olds are busto

yeah, if you are planning to take it seriously, id recommend to improve your brm and to get a decent side gig to compliment your income. gl!

I mainly got my roll from sports betting. Pretty much just using the promotions the many sites offer. Though now they've all pretty much banned me from their promotions

Though i wouldn't recommend playing any Aussie millions tourneys with your roll. But I'm pretty sure the cash games during that time would be pretty good.

Are you saying you've played 30k hands of cash games online or live? Because live that's 1000 hours which is like 6 months playing full time. It's not a ton of hands but 1000 hours is plenty to know if you're decent or not IMO.

And playing the Aussie Millions is a ridiculous idea with your bankroll. Main event anyway and probably most of the smaller tournaments.

30k hands of cash is from online but just a guess as it was back a year ago when i was being an idiot playing 100NL and my HUD doesnt cover over 25c/50c.
I only played 1 session live of 1/3 PLO and won like $400, basically just folded for 6 hours then potted pre with aces and won (did make one insane fold, flopped 2nd nut flush and open folded to a single cbet which was most my stack, guy showed nut flush)

At the millions i will be selling as much action as i can to friends/family, i plan on playing as much of the smaller events as i can, think if i can play with less than 40% of myself in most events i will be fine

can you expand a bit on how you get the roll through promotions on sport sites?

the Australian sports betting sites offer a lot of specials and promotions, example they may say place a $50 bet on a team to win in this game and if they lead at half time and end up losing you get you money back. sportsbet crownbet and ladbrokes genereally have the best ones. and all the sites gennereally offer deposit bonuses when you first sign up, like they may give you a $200 bonus bet if you sign up and deposit $200.

To each their own. I said "can be" more soul crushing than any 9-5 job, especially LLSNL. I think anyone who's played poker full time long enough would agree that this was the case for them at least one point (and probably a lot more) in their poker career.

As for making good money, why play poker full time if you're making close to or less than min wage? Especially if you're trying to build a life roll; playing 1/2 and 1/3 full time has to be one of the worst ways to build a life roll imo

And speaking of context, it's close to meaningless to tell us how much more you've been enjoying 40+ hours of poker per week without giving us the slightest idea of how long you have been doing it, what jobs you've held, and what jobs you could be holding if you wanted to.

I'd look at a part time job in the mean time, even if it's only for a few months, you have a very high minimum wage in Oz so you'd be able to top your BR up to 20/25 100bb buyins much quicker than someone playing an equivalent stake in the U.K. or US so make the most of it! If you work 15 hours per week at minimum wage you make over an entire buyin which is massive! Glgl though, I'ddo that and play lots of hours too, in your position what's the worst that can happen?

personally i dont think id enjoy playing live cash for a living but id enjoy it more than anything else apart from soccer coach which is even more difficult.
Im just bored by any form of poker other than heads up, so playing 9 handed and playing one hand every 3 minutes wont be fun, but i cant imagine anything else id prefer.

to get a good job ill have to wait 2.5 years till i graduate uni. I will probs start getting like 50-60k off the bat (im studying accounting and have great academic record) but dont want to wait 3 years when im good enough now.
I had already skimmed through that Neeme video, i think my winrate would be fairly high as there arent many good regs at the star as the rake is unbeatable for 95% of players.
My dream is to be a tournament pro as i am a better tournament player. Id estimate that around 95-98% of my poker experience has been at less than 75bbs effective. I also feel i adjust better to certain tournament dynamics, like taking advantage of people not wanting to bust, understanding ICM etc.

So you say you want to become a poker pro but you hate the slow speed, everything but HU is boring, and then you say you want to become a tourney pro.
Your line does not make sense. Which is it? As a live pro you will have the boredom all the time. And you you haven't done any of that at 40h/week+ consistently.
The rake at the Star is not that high, even with the recent surge of the AUD it's less than US$8 max and no tipping (yes +timecharge). The bigger issue is that there is not a ton of action above the 2/3 game

UPDATE:
Decided to grind $15 hypers for the next month (online is expected to go down by mid september). My ITM% dropped below 60 for turbo's so i just think its higher EV to play hypers as my ITM% will still be around 55 which is really good if you put in enough volume, which is easier to do for hypers and much less mentally challenging, also easier to 2 table.

Played like 15 games and won nearly every one. Obvs had to win all the flips but i played really well, sharpening up my shortstack game has definitely helped

http://imgur.com/a/cZG1b

The difference is that you can probably get a 30+years career and much high salaries out of it, whereas in pokers you're severely capped

yeah of course, but who wants to be an accountant for 30 years? Maybe my mind will change when i get older, but right now making it as a poker pro just seems like everything to me