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Originally Posted by HorribleCall
This is standard for an old guy imo
Completely standard for SO many nits. Non-nut flushes are up there with pocket jacks and ace-king pre-flop
to a nit - always ends up with some sort of bizarre play and subsequent rant/statement of comedic value.
Bonus to this story - table captain who wants to educate the fish, starts after bolded section (which ends the nit who almost folded a flush on the river despite it being beyond obvious that the flush is good part of the story). Also, if anyone wants to be lazy, skip to the bold part for the humor.
Complete with my own internal thoughts:
2/5 NL - UTG leads out for $25 (UTG is not the nit in question), 3 callers to me on the button with 65s (hearts), sweet, can't ask for a better hand to play multiway like this in position, call Flop comes A87, two clubs, one heart. UTG leads out for 60, two call to me. Had no one called I thought about a semi-bluff here, but okay I'll just take my chances with the draw and be careful if my straight comes with a club. Nice $305 pot we got here now.
Turn is the K of hearts. Checks all the way to me. Odd. Not what I expected. Could have tried something here with my flush/open ended straight draw, but as we shall see, it's a good thing I did not.
River is the 2 of hearts. Oh boy, this is awesome, no way I'm being put on hearts here, going to get paid off big time, hope UTG thinks his AQ or JJ is good or someone wants to try to bluff a busted draw. Checks around to me, annoying, but okay, I bet $125, thinking it's a perfectly small not quite half-pot value-bet here since I highly doubt anyone has anything less than a crappier two-pair. UTG folds, next player folds, final player, a woman on the younger side of middle aged tanks, tanks, tanks, oh great, looks like I'm not getting paid off here, and then finally just calls. I say flush, she sighs and says me too as we both table our hands (she didn't slowroll here, she tabled immediately, just like I did) - I table 65s, she tables JTs.
Oh, and both of us had well over a grand in stacks.
I tap, say nice hand, and make a mental note, but someone else decides to, table captain and ask her "No raise on the river, or a bet? Just check/call? He's calling most raises there, you just lost a good chance to make a nice chunk of money - you bet, he calls and may even raise, or you can check/raise and he probably calls too!", and she explains:
"I wasn't sure I was good there, he could have had the ace high flush or the queen high flush - I was actually close to folding, he looked strong, and even once I decided I was good, I'm not going to raise the river without the nuts, that's just for you gambling types!". (For those that skipped, multi-way pot raised pre, both of us called on the flop with straight draws, turn checked all the way around, we both hit backdoor flushes, but hers was higher and anyone with a clue would have known no one else had a higher flush)
Table captain then proceeds to explain why I would never have either the ace-high flush or the queen-high flush (his logic is pretty good; he explains that most people would definitely try something with ace-rag of hearts on the turn in position after everyone checked, and yeah, I probably would have, and since she has the jack and the ten of hearts, the only way I had queen-suited of hearts would be queen-rag, at best queen-nine, none of which would have ever called the flop, at this point most of the table is staring at him with a WTF shut up face, but he continues to explain that even if I somehow have either of those hands that the chances of me having those two hands are not nearly as much as me trying a value bet with a set or two-pair that would happily pay off a well concelead runner-runner flush.
He's spot on in his analysis - it's actually wierd because the people who like to table captain/educate the fishies/show how much they know usually are morons, it's wierd for someone who actually is making perfect sense to be willing to talk this much - particularly since the whole time I, and the rest of the table, is staring at him with a WTF face. He also isn't doing it to needle me or anything, he's polite and talking about the generic player, as opposed to saying "I know this guy and he does X", so it's not even like he's trying to go after me or anything, he just clearly wants to educate this woman about poker.
She responds with a "You never know for sure, and that's why I just called, I thought about it and figured my flush was good, but without the nuts, I just want to call and win what's there". Someone else thankfully manages to put an end to all this nonsense by changing the topic.
Definitely saved some money there, that's for sure.
Last edited by FlatTireSuited; 12-10-2010 at 09:42 AM.