I'll spare the gory details of the hand. The board is J52KK. I bet the river, get called, and table my JJ. The large woman who called me shows KT.

Her: You're lucky that river paired the board. If it didn't my trips would have been good.

Me: If the river didn't pair the board you wouldn't have had trips.

She ponders what I said for 20 seconds.

Her: (genuinely impressed) Wow, you're smart!

2-5NL, October 2005, Oneida Casino, Green Bay WI

KQd vs drunk spewtard; spewtard opens for 25 in MP, i call from his left, folds around

flop: 8d4d2c
spewtard bets 25, i raise to 75, he calls.

turn: 7h
spewtard checks, i bet 100, he tanks, and eventually calls, looks pretty reluctant.
i have 200 behind, he has me covered.

river: brick
he checks, i ponder, and shove.
he tanks, says "well, i might still be good" and calls.
i dejectedly turn over my busted draw and say "well, this cant be good."
and he says, "well I dont know, i think i got you" and rolls over Q9.
guy on my left says "uh, wtf just happened?"

raise preflop. as played, raise flop. not too much to think about there.

nice value shove!
he could beat 9dTd after all.

this thread reminds me of a plo hand that i witness at the venetian last week.
2/5plo
at the river there is about $650 in the pot after a bet and a raise on the flop and betting on the turn. the river goes check check.
on a board of 56TK2
the player out of position rolls over his pair of 6s (with a missed straight draw) and the player in position had no pair having missed the world with straight and flush draws (and pair outs that were good too!).

someone asked player 1, "why did you check the river? did you think you could win with a pair of 6s?"
"i had show down value." (remember this is omaha.)

My friends were at a different 1/2NL table from me. One of them is chatting with the guy next to her and gets into the topic of online poker. He starts to complain about online poker. Not that it is rigged but that it is.. "Too Random".

His reasoning was that they continuously shuffle the deck (via the random generator) so that changes what should come down... somehow to his determent I guess.

I have heard the same complaint except in relation to incorrectly dealing someone in / out, burning an extra card for whatever reason or pretty much anything that might alter the "way it was going to come out". I guess feeling that the game is pre-determined helps some of the older degens think that the reason they lose is not because their play sucks but because the cards just come out wrong for them

Statements like "I thought that since there were two queens on the flop that meant my opponent was less likely to have a queen, so my pocket 10s were good." What appears on the flop has absolutely no relation to what your opponent was dealt before the flop, so unless there are four queens on board, your opponent is just as likely to have a queen in his hand as if there were none on the flop.

Lady has the nuts on the river and just calls opponents bet.

I ask her why she didn't raise, and she replies that there was no point because she might be beat.

Much of hand reading is understand combos. "There are XXX combos that beat me and YYY combos I beat, so I should..."

When a second Queen hits the board it reduces the number of combos of Qx that your opponent can have. It does not reduce the number of non Q hands they can have. From your point of view they are now less likely to hold a Q.

This may seem silly on it's face but really isn't worthy of being in this thread IMO given the fact that it's possible for him to be right

This is a live play constant which irritates the life out of me

This is f&%$#@^ fantastic, kudos

Some of us are more human than you, Spock.

Self ownage

Yesterday:

In a tournament with a 55-ish guy to my left, commenting on the play of every hand.

At 1500/3000, with 21500 in my stack, I shove AJo from the Cutoff. The bigstack on the button tanks, eventually calling with 77 and the board comes all low cards, and I bust.

Immediately, 55-year-old just blasts me, telling me what a stupid shove that was. One of the older guys agrees heartily. "Why are you pushing with that trash."

I wanted to tell them I've never seen either one of them at a FT, but I just slinked off.

I thought this was true. Am I missing something?

??

This one is so good that even my wife (who plays once in a while and only in a home game) cracked up when I read it to her.

Well, at least it's in the right thread.....
How do you feel about QQQ flop? (Just curious.)

Here is something I just don't get at all. In NLHE, whenever someone has a pocket pair, they will always fold preflop to a raise if it is going to be a heads-up pot, and they will always say "I just needed one more caller". Absolutely EVERYONE will call in a multiway pot but not heads-up, regardless of stack sizes, position, etc. It happens so much that I have begun to think it must somehow be right. But it's not, right? Having one extra caller matters so little, right? Am I going crazy?!

I'm holding KT in Nl game.

3 callers to the flop:

TT4 rainbow.

Guy who calls alot is to my left, I pot it for 55 or so.

Turn A I bet 75

River 5

I pot it again.

Board is TT4A5

The guy goes into the tank for 2 3 minutes and calls with J9

" I thought you were bluffing "

Actually one of the funniest things i hear all the time at my local game is the opposite. cracks me up every time. Example Hand:

I have KK on the button, guy limps early position, folds to me after that, i make it 12, sb calls, bb calls, utg folds. Hand plays out and my KK wins a 60$ pot, as soon as its over UTG goes "damnit all i folded 33, woulda made a set" and when asked why he didnt call, there are at least 10 guys at the local card room who consistantly say

"Well if it was just you i wouldve, but i dont wanna play against 4 ppl with pocket 3s"

It's because when you play a small to mid-size pocket pair in NLHE, you're hoping to flop a set. You're not really going about it hopefully to call someone down to the end, and hope your pocket fours are good. You want it to be multi-way so the pot will be larger, and you'll get action if your hit your set.

Home Game- A guy with the pro-poker player attitude and regular casino gambler says "I never lose with pocket 99, Never ill call any all in on any street", and he does, that same guy one time has pocket 1010 and flops top set on a 1072 rainbow board, another guy tries to bluff him with J7 for a huge pot and he flips over his cards and starts acting like an idiot saying i think im gonna fold, he could have xx (no preflop raise and the shover was raising alot) and finally calls after some time and the other guy catches runner runner Jacks full and beats him, he says: i knew i should fold.Another guy at a slot machine says to a friend of mine seating at his side, "today we are leaving on a jet or on foot" and my friend go on and loses all his money and leaves and the other guy apparently goes broke also, and at the exit he saw the other guy getting in a limo guarded by bodyguards and with some girls, and my friend had nothing,
I used to play at a home game that at the middle of the hands when some "big decision came" they started asking what do you have (whoever wasnt involved to the ones involved in the hand) and started passin the hole cards a ll over.

Local tourny, my friend has Ax on a 2 2 2 board. Someone bets, a call, my friend calls. Turn is a 2. All the money goes in and my friend calls obv, expecting a chop. One guy tables 9 9 and the other Q Q. My friend amusedly goes to collect the pot, before the table erupts. It's a split pot, they all claim, everyone has quads. My friend calls the host over, and explains he has the Ace kicker. Host thinks and thinks whilst everyone is arguing and claiming Q Q is the best hand, others say all three chop, not one seems to understand the A kicker. Eventually the host says all three split it. Reason? 'It's not fair that A high should win.' Not as funny as some of the stories so far but tilting nonetheless!

"I have to call I am getting value" - this all the time or "I cant fold for $10 more I have to call"

I was playing $1/2 NLHE in MP in a 3 way pot were I am second to act after EP and turn the nut straight and go all in, the guy to my left thinks for ages and turns to EP seat and says

"why do you have to be in the hand I know I got this guy beat"

he then turns to me and says

"Your lucky he has to act after me"

He folds, EP folds.

Guy to my left says "I wasnt worried about you (Hero), dam it I should of called"
Hero says "what did you have"
Guy to my left says "Bottom pair 5 kicker"

I see a guy 4 bet fold pre to an all in getting a huge price. Since I'm leaving I say to him "How can you fold? You were getting like 5-1 to call" He says "What do you mean 5-1, there was only two of us in the pot"