Show up playing that style and you are correct. Every reg/pro/grinder would be bum hunting you with in an hour.

Action flops and rake, someone playing for the casino etc. I don't get the "why would casinos blablabla" as if casinos never did **** like that. In the "old" mob days, they rigged the games. And in shady joints they rig the games. So, like, its not as if there is no incentive. All depends on management. If you got a psychopath running the place, why wouldn't he do psychopath stuff?

Edit: I don't think they are actually doing stuff like that. But it wouldn't be the most preposterous notion.

Edit: On youtube there is a lot of videos showing rigged games of BJ and Roulette. So, at least some online casinos ACTUALLY rig their games SOMETIMES. Also, Casinos are struggling. People pretend that they are cashcows. Explain the wave of bankruptcy in the business, Altantic City dying, Casinos battling over customers etc.

(Just to be the devil's advocate)

I don't know if casinos are struggling or if they aren't, but I can tell you bankruptcies in Atlantic City are due to the neighboring states having casinos now. That, and Atlantic City is a **** hole. The problem with that town is that nobody that has a financial interest in a casino lives there. Nearly all the money leaves town.

I've been there several times and it was always a slow decline, but when nearby states got casinos it nosedived. Little to no money goes back into the town, the boardwalk has the same old same old rundown **** it's had for years.

Maybe casinos overall are struggling, I don't know, but in the case of Atlantic City it's a whole different problem.

WPT circuit event. More than halfway through day 1 of a 2 day event, two big stacks are in a hand. Headsup, second to act bets pot size out of turn. After confirming the rule (action will stay if action is unchanged), first to act tanks for two minutes, then check raises. Second to act promptly goes all in. First to act folds.

I guess there could have been some deep, multi level thinking going on, but it sure seemed like a poor time to run a bluff if that magnitude against a guy representing strength. He lost about a third of his stack and was on tilt the rest of the night

I think this should be:

V1s action
V2 bets out of turn
V1 confirms if he checks the V2s bet stays
V1 tanks for 2 minutes and bets (I'm guessing for around the same amount of V2s bet??)
V2 shoves
V1 folds

So you think its absurd because V1 could have just check called V2s known bet and gotten to see the next street for ~ same price as his bet/fold?

What I thought was absurd was that V2 is showing strength (yes, possibly it was a bluff), and rather than fold out or check\call, you inflate the pot and then fold when V2 folds. What made it absurd to me was the fact that V1 had been the table chip leader, we were two hours from bagging, and that the very predictable outcome put him on tilt (he played weak and loose the rest of the evening and was below average when our table broke).

I just think the risk versus reward was skewed for that play. But, like I said, maybe I was just missing some next level stuff going on

Nope, not as I read it. I get:
V1s action
V2 bets out of turn
V1 confirms if he checks the V2s bet stays
V1 tanks for 2 minutes and checks
V2's pot-sized bet stays and action is back on V1, who raises
V2 shoves
V1 folds

This is correct

So the best possible combination is a royal flush. So imagine the best possible thing is to get 7 cards in a row. Like 2-7 and now imagine that they're all hearts. Boom, royal flush.

*a guy standing behind me explaining the game to a his companion.

hahahahaha it just gets better and better, this is the best comment on this thread in awhile. This thread sucks now

finally heard a guy say something that I found truly ridiculous.

He said he always plays 10 5. He reasoned that you MUST have one of those cards either in hand or on the board to make a straight. Technically true but good gosh.

Even better if it's double-suited because then you can make two different flushes in addition to any straight (except a 9-high straight).

Plus the 10 is the 5th best card in all of poker.

Might have been me.

I troll people at the table and tell them that T5 is my favorite hand, giving that very reason.

I even add that "I'd rather have T5 than Aces!"

You've described me to a T. I play with money from my recreation budget, not a gambling bankroll. If I win, GREAT. If I don't win then I should at least have a good time while I lose. That kind of player ruins the game for me.

Saw some poor guy get it all in with Kings in a tournament only to run into not one but two players with Aces. As I was getting the sidepot straight and getting ready to put out the board (I was dealing) a voice piped up and said without a trace of sarcasm or joking around to the guy with Kings "You're not in bad shape, they can't improve."

Woohoo! 2.3% addition equity

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=193276
pokenum -h ks kd - ah ad
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Kd 305177 17.82 1399204 81.71 7923 0.46 0.181
Ad Ah 1399204 81.71 305177 17.82 7923 0.46 0.819

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=11439549
pokenum -h ks kd - ah ad - ac as
Holdem Hi: 1370754 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Kd 278116 20.29 1086852 79.29 5786 0.42 0.204
Ad Ah 27939 2.04 306055 22.33 1036760 75.63 0.398
As Ac 27939 2.04 306055 22.33 1036760 75.63 0.398

All flushes are blocked tho

...but in a pot which is roughly 50% bigger in $..... 20% of 3 > 18% of 2
(Still in bad shape, though)

True, so you approximately double the EV of the 2.3% increase in equity

I'm not exactly sure if you are agreeing, or trying to say the increase is trivial and small, but no, I don't think you're getting it right. Your EV increases by 66% overall as a result (assuming you were the short stack).

Right, it's a big increase: if I jam 10k with KK and get called by one AA, my equity is roughly 3600 chips (18% of the 20k pot). If I get called by two AA, my equity is roughly 6000 chips (20% of the 30k pot).

FWIW, I was being a wise guy. Obviously, once you're all-in, no increase in equity is trivial.

1/2, guy announces to table that's he's leaving soon. Someone makes a comment about his healthy $800 stack. He says "yeah not bad having been down to $27".

He came over from another table with a full stack. Sat and got it in bad one hand, crippling him. Didn't rebuy. Built it back up against a drunk shoving ATC to his direct right and a bad player calling off way too light donating to his direct left. Plus a river suckout vs me for $150. I quietly laugh during his speech as he gets colored up and leaves.

^ Huh?