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Old 07-18-2017, 07:30 AM   #6501
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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I once sat down at the $1/$2 with a friend buying short and shoving every other hand. People got annoyed and asked the floor to remove us because they wanted to play "serious" poker.
The "serious poker" part is a bit much, but I can see their point. Likely they brought one buy in and wanted to play poker for a while and not just put $100 in the pot preflop to flip for it.

If they wanted to just flip for hundos they could play baccarat.

Keep in mind, $100 means more to some folks than others.

I doubt you would find a regular/pro/grinder who would object to that playing style, you'd likely end up in the "bum hunting" thread.
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Old 07-18-2017, 08:57 PM   #6502
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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Just want to +1 this for the people who dont get to play live as much and might not believe this.

I've personally seen this happen many times playing live NL over the years.
My wife is one of these. She likes to play poker like she does slots...lots and lots of small gambles. She is not playing poker to win. She does know how and can when she wants but she is playing to have fun, play lots of hands, but still make the hundred or two last a while. Normally she is on a free roll in her mind playing on slot winnings. But if she doesn't play most hands she gets board. But she does not want to be in for three or four bets preflop in most hands

So if they are a couple of aggressive players betting and raising each other frequently, she will just leave. Now post flop, bet away, raise all you want because so will she if she catches any piece of the flop. But she wants to see lots of cheap flops or she'll just go play slots.
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Old 07-18-2017, 11:38 PM   #6503
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The "serious poker" part is a bit much, but I can see their point. Likely they brought one buy in and wanted to play poker for a while and not just put $100 in the pot preflop to flip for it.

If they wanted to just flip for hundos they could play baccarat.

Keep in mind, $100 means more to some folks than others.

I doubt you would find a regular/pro/grinder who would object to that playing style, you'd likely end up in the "bum hunting" thread.
Show up playing that style and you are correct. Every reg/pro/grinder would be bum hunting you with in an hour.
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:52 AM   #6504
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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Sure, that's what they want you to think.

Seriously, what would the motivation be for the casino to rig the deal in a poker game?
Action flops and rake, someone playing for the casino etc. I don't get the "why would casinos blablabla" as if casinos never did **** like that. In the "old" mob days, they rigged the games. And in shady joints they rig the games. So, like, its not as if there is no incentive. All depends on management. If you got a psychopath running the place, why wouldn't he do psychopath stuff?

Edit: I don't think they are actually doing stuff like that. But it wouldn't be the most preposterous notion.

Edit: On youtube there is a lot of videos showing rigged games of BJ and Roulette. So, at least some online casinos ACTUALLY rig their games SOMETIMES. Also, Casinos are struggling. People pretend that they are cashcows. Explain the wave of bankruptcy in the business, Altantic City dying, Casinos battling over customers etc.

(Just to be the devil's advocate)

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Old 07-22-2017, 08:21 AM   #6505
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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Also, Casinos are struggling. People pretend that they are cashcows. Explain the wave of bankruptcy in the business, Altantic City dying, Casinos battling over customers etc.

(Just to be the devil's advocate)
I don't know if casinos are struggling or if they aren't, but I can tell you bankruptcies in Atlantic City are due to the neighboring states having casinos now. That, and Atlantic City is a **** hole. The problem with that town is that nobody that has a financial interest in a casino lives there. Nearly all the money leaves town.

I've been there several times and it was always a slow decline, but when nearby states got casinos it nosedived. Little to no money goes back into the town, the boardwalk has the same old same old rundown **** it's had for years.

Maybe casinos overall are struggling, I don't know, but in the case of Atlantic City it's a whole different problem.
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Old 07-22-2017, 09:14 AM   #6506
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

WPT circuit event. More than halfway through day 1 of a 2 day event, two big stacks are in a hand. Headsup, second to act bets pot size out of turn. After confirming the rule (action will stay if action is unchanged), first to act tanks for two minutes, then check raises. Second to act promptly goes all in. First to act folds.

I guess there could have been some deep, multi level thinking going on, but it sure seemed like a poor time to run a bluff if that magnitude against a guy representing strength. He lost about a third of his stack and was on tilt the rest of the night
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Old 07-22-2017, 11:14 AM   #6507
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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WPT circuit event. More than halfway through day 1 of a 2 day event, two big stacks are in a hand. Headsup, second to act bets pot size out of turn. After confirming the rule (action will stay if action is unchanged), first to act tanks for two minutes, then check raises. Second to act promptly goes all in. First to act folds.



I guess there could have been some deep, multi level thinking going on, but it sure seemed like a poor time to run a bluff if that magnitude against a guy representing strength. He lost about a third of his stack and was on tilt the rest of the night


I think this should be:

V1s action
V2 bets out of turn
V1 confirms if he checks the V2s bet stays
V1 tanks for 2 minutes and bets (I'm guessing for around the same amount of V2s bet??)
V2 shoves
V1 folds

So you think its absurd because V1 could have just check called V2s known bet and gotten to see the next street for ~ same price as his bet/fold?
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:23 PM   #6508
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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I think this should be:

V1s action
V2 bets out of turn
V1 confirms if he checks the V2s bet stays
V1 tanks for 2 minutes and bets (I'm guessing for around the same amount of V2s bet??)
V2 shoves
V1 folds

So you think its absurd because V1 could have just check called V2s known bet and gotten to see the next street for ~ same price as his bet/fold?
What I thought was absurd was that V2 is showing strength (yes, possibly it was a bluff), and rather than fold out or check\call, you inflate the pot and then fold when V2 folds. What made it absurd to me was the fact that V1 had been the table chip leader, we were two hours from bagging, and that the very predictable outcome put him on tilt (he played weak and loose the rest of the evening and was below average when our table broke).

I just think the risk versus reward was skewed for that play. But, like I said, maybe I was just missing some next level stuff going on
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:49 PM   #6509
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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I think this should be:

V1s action
V2 bets out of turn
V1 confirms if he checks the V2s bet stays
V1 tanks for 2 minutes and bets (I'm guessing for around the same amount of V2s bet??)
V2 shoves
V1 folds

So you think its absurd because V1 could have just check called V2s known bet and gotten to see the next street for ~ same price as his bet/fold?
Nope, not as I read it. I get:
V1s action
V2 bets out of turn
V1 confirms if he checks the V2s bet stays
V1 tanks for 2 minutes and checks
V2's pot-sized bet stays and action is back on V1, who raises

V2 shoves
V1 folds
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:57 PM   #6510
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

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Nope, not as I read it. I get:
V1s action
V2 bets out of turn
V1 confirms if he checks the V2s bet stays
V1 tanks for 2 minutes and checks
V2's pot-sized bet stays and action is back on V1, who raises

V2 shoves
V1 folds
This is correct
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Old Today, 08:46 AM   #6511
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Re: Most absurd poker "thinking" you have heard in a live game?

So the best possible combination is a royal flush. So imagine the best possible thing is to get 7 cards in a row. Like 2-7 and now imagine that they're all hearts. Boom, royal flush.

*a guy standing behind me explaining the game to a his companion.
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