Fair enough - you're definitely right in that sense. I guess aside from the actual definition, for the specific post quoted - I just think the point of the post was that you lose your right to complain about the cooler since you called a 3bet w/ K4o pre

This may not 100% fall under thinking, but definitely absurd. 1/3 live game and one player at the table is telegraphing his hands, not that that is any deterrent to the calling stations, he opens to $26 with just about any hand he plays except big pairs he was opening to $31 making it seem like he didn't want action.

This room has a high hand payout every two hours that pays out the top four hands $500/$200/$200/$200 and this is the reason for the story.

Seat 1 raises to $31 preflop and gets two callers. Flop is KQQ and he fires a handful of green chips like $75+ and other players fold. He show KK for K's full and asks to rabbit hunt the turn card to see if he would have made quads and sure enough it was the case King and blows a gasket.

The absurd part is he literally blew everyone out of the pot with that bet and then gets mad he didn't get to see the turn card?!?!?!?

I'm not sure what he was expecting to get called with? AQ maybe, KQ sure, QQ sure, but that's about it. Why bet everyone out of the pot when the likelihood of getting outdrawn is so small?

He didn't have to bet that big but he can get called by all of the Broadway combos and a king or Queen. Checking down a big hand to try and hit one out for a likely $200 is absurd. The most absurd thing about that hand is opening 10bb and getting 2 cold callers

From 1/2 last night (I sat down at the end of the preflop betting/raising):

UTG limps in
Middle position raises to $15 - $20 -- I didn't see the exact count before the stack got in
late position shoves for a little over $200
the blinds fold
UTG calls the $200+ all-in leaving roughly $100 behind
middle position is all in for roughly $100
remaining limpers/callers of the initial raise have folded

The board runs out...

Late position flips over Aces
Middle Position flips over Queens
UTG flips over 10, 6 OS for a runner runner boat.

He explained that he had to call the $200 because he'd never played 10,6 calling a huge preflop raise before so he needed to know how it would do.

You can play a hand poorly pre-flop (i.e. not folding) and run into a cooler of a flop.

One could argue that that is what one gets then they play hands they shouldn't play.

So they get coolered when they shouldn't have been coolered. Still a cooler.

Nobody cares about this stupid argument

Was playing some 1/2 last night and guy limps and there's a raise, super nit 3b and the limper shoves 77 for about 225. Raiser calls and super nit tank folds, the raiser has KK

77 flops a set, KK turns a flush and the board pairs on the river. KK just leaves the table and doesn't say anything, but OMC's at the table keep saying bad beat, the 77 guy says "how is it a bad beat, I had a full house and he had a flush"

Another hand with him, I can't remember the action exactly, but it doesn't matter, I was the aggressor though.

Flop QJ9dd, he donks for around pot and folds to my shove and claims to have had A10dd. Guy in between us, just laughs and says there is no way you folded and the A10 guy says I had nothing I had to fold.

My guess is that when he tells the story to his friends it going to be in the line of "There was a bunch of idiots at my table and I couldn't help myself, had to troll them. This one guy even took my ATdd bait.".

cooler implies no way to get away from it, or it was going to play that way even if you did "x, y or z".. playing a hand bad typically implies doing x, y or z would have created a different butterfly affect... thus having a different result.

Edit: quoted from previous page, now up to date and realized it's been explained.

Yeah we don't need to nail the definition down in the absurd thinking thread but if the answer to "What could I have done?" is "fold earlier" then you're gonna look like an ******* going around grumbling about your "cooler".

Said by the guy at $1/2 (he had a stack of about $150) who 4-bet shoved K, 10 suited in the face of my substantial 3 bet (there had been a raise before him and several callers when I 3 bet): "I just wanted to isolate".

I'm not sure if this is absurd thinking but I'm still scratching my head.

1/2 game has already been running about an hour when I arrive. It seems they've scrapped the usual $500 max buy-in as at least 4 new Chinese and Japanese players are sitting with over $1000 and as I take a seat and buy-in for my usual $200 a reg is also adding on for another $1000. Game is playing big and players are casually limp/calling $30 raises, and I've already seen some huge bluffs and huge calls.

As more players arrive the second table opens and one of the fairly solid regs, TAG regs who usually one of the first in the room and generally sits with the max of $500 asks to move to the newly forming table "it's too risky over here" he says shaking his hand.

A few more hands are played and the suggestion is made to make the bigger table a 2/5 game and the reg who left now comes back and buys in for $1000. "I thought you said this table was too risky I say". He says "yeah, that was when it was 1/2. At 1/2 these guys open for $25 and I can't call with hands like KJ but at 2/5 they'll still open for $25 but now I can call."

Makes sense to me!

I think this makes sense to me. A player doesn't think they should call 13BB raises with some hand but will call 5BB.

Reg's reason for leaving is fine if he doesn't want to play for $1000 ... but coming back because the BB went *up* is head stratchingly weird.

cooler

Live 2/5

Super tight omc opens $30 UTG. MP soul reader calls rest fold. About $400 effective.

Flop Q93

Omc checks, mp bets $50, omc x/r $150 (with another $200 behind)

MP opens his hand, QJ and starts tanking. (In this room hand is still live)

Im thinking wtf this dude is obviously folding stop wasting our time.

He calls. Lol. With his QJ exposed he counts out the $150 and calls.

Turn 3

OMC all in $200. MP snap folds proudly saying "once i show you my hand and you keep betting, I know you're not bluffing"

Which actually is probably true but still lol

not sure if it's absurd thinking. whether you (not you actually) agree with exposing his hand as an angle/to gain a read or not, his reason for folding seems like 'logical' reason if that's what he truly believes...especially since the opponent is OMC.

I see the exposing of hand/call in the same light as a min reraise/blocker bet. done to slow down the action and/or gain information.

lol this reminds me of a hand from my 1/2 days - looked for it and still had it written down:

open $15 QJcc, folds to sb who 3b to $30, effective stacks = 200bb, I call

Flop JJThh
he bets $65, I raise to $170. He tanks for 3-5 minutes, flips AA face-up, and calls.

Turn 9x
he checks, I jam. He tanks another 3-5 minutes and calls.

good thing he wasn't a soul reader.

Yea his out loud thinking is actually logical i agree but his thought process throughout the hand was beautiful imo

I thought you buying in for $200 was the absurd part.

The absurd thing here is your line. First, you raise flop cuz I haz trips lol. Then, why jam turn when you knew your opponents hand and you knew that he had less than 5% equity. Just check back, jam river. Lucky you ran into a fish that stacks any overpair.

FYP

I'm just saying there's a better way to stack him, and get value out of other hands besides AA/KK. I guess this is fine at live 1/2 though. Obviously online 1/2 and 2/5 this doesn't get paid off by anything close to 90% of players