^ if everyone is talking at once, that is definitely a problem, but personally I think the person who requested the floor come over should be allowed to speak first. When I have called for a floor myself, it is usually because the dealer has misunderstood something, causing the original problem. Whenever he is allowed to speak first, it biases the floor person to believing that version of the events, and occasionally I am not even given a chance to correct the statement of the dealer.

RE: too tight

Smile and say "just waiting for aces" entusiastically. This usually lightens the mood.

RE: floor

This is beyond a pet peeve of mine. I feel like the floor gets about 60% of an accurate story every time.

Been berating players for years over this. I ALWAYS call them out. I dont give a F who it is. Flip your GD hand over.

I always say to them just what you posted. "Is your hand going to change or improve on winning?"

The floor should be biased towards believing the dealer's version of events.

Perhaps. But we've all seen them get it wrong, leading to an incorrect decision by the floor. Or maybe you've never had that experience, idk.

If the dealer gets it wrong, speak up. Until then, keep your mouth shut, because you're obviously painting a picture that results in a ruling in your favor. Whereas the dealer is impartial.

I really get annoyed with people who hide their big chips or make dirty stacks. It's not hard to separate your chips after you win a pot.

This one guy had a stack of probably 30 whites behind his stack of 15 red, but he had a green $25 on the bottom of the white stack that nobody could see except those to his immediate right and left. Anytime I got heads up I would say how much you got and he would lean back without showing the green so I would ask the dealer to move his big chips to the front and then the guy would put them right back after the hand

If you really think most dealers are impartial when telling a story to the floor, the first part of your user name is totally accurate.

I would assume guy is just an angling douche and everytime he's in a hand I would announce he has green chips behind his whites.

You should be telling the dealer to make those players put their big chips on top of or in front of their smaller chips. If the dealer or the player doesn't want to comply, ask for a floor.

When tournament players put their blinds up at the same time they ante. It only confuses the dealers and slows things down.

What???

So it's 100/200/a25,and you put 2 black on the betting line and 1 green in front of them and that confuses a dealer?

I would call the floor on this and tell the floor exactly what the guy is doing. I'd say at least half the floormen out there would rule that the big chips have to stay visible or else.

fyp

The only time I have ever seen a dealer even pause is if the player uses some starnge combination of chips. For the most part, though, they extract enough for the ante, then figure the blinds later. Never seen this be an issue.

The other issue is that once the Dealer speaks, his story is the presumptive truth. if the floor rules based on the dealers version, he will almost never reverse his decision, as they have to be decisive, else they lose control of the game. They can't decide then reverse themselves when a player gives input.

I will let the dealer talk first, but I will ask the floor if I can comment before he makes his ruling.

I certainly think it would be fair to loudly ask, after the second or third time this is an issue 'Dude, are you deliberately trying to disguise the value of your stacks by hiding the greens? That is an angling douche move.'

This is a bad approach. Let the dealer or the floor be the enforcer of the rules and keep things friendly or at least civil between the players.

I agree in principle about keeping things friendly, but if a guy is deliberately playing scummy, friendliness is already gone.

What do you think would be better for the game? Your approach or letting a dealer or floor handle it?

The only way to handle someone keeping big chips out of sight is something like "Dealer, can you ask seat 4 to put his big chips out front".

If a player is hiding big chips the dealer either doesn't know or should be reminded to enforce that rule.
If a player is hiding big chips the player either did it by accident or needs to know that this is a rule that will be enforced.

The comments that bug me are ones like, "Oh, man, why did you come to this table? Go somewhere else." I also get a lot of comments from these players while the hand is going on when I do something like 3-bet pre-flop, which is annoying as it can influence action (often times in my favor, but it's still annoying)

Actually, I'm also trying to have fun and socialize. If I didn't enjoy this game at least a little bit I wouldn't play it for money.

I have been responding pretty LAGGy lately with "just waiting for aces or kings." I try to keep things lighthearted. I guess another pet peeve is when people talk openly about how bad the game is. They don't realize that is bad for the atmosphere and they're probably just going to make it worse.

Nothing wrong with a bit of nit shaming.

Let's say a player has two stacks of reds. You ask him if he has any blacks and he says no. You go all in assuming he has $200 behind. He snap calls and he actually has $700 behind cause five black chips he was hiding. What's the ruling? Would it make a difference if the DEALER asked how much he was playing?

No difference to me whether player or dealer asks. No one should have to ask to begin with, but if asked, you cannot lie about your stacks.

Player lied, and his large denom chips were not on top or in front. If heads up, I let opponent decide if they are in play or not. Multi way they do not play. Player gets a warning afterwards.