Agree

idiot

Dealer should grab the cards and his tip when he takes them into the muck.

Angles are only as stupid as the people you're using them against.

Cool story bro!

why did I read the entire thing?.......

You're from Detroit.

touche

I have no idea if this is a true story or an urban legend, but I was told this a few weeks ago.


$1-$3 NLH cash game - Downtown casino poker room

Player A is in middle position and shoves AI for aprox $150 preflop. Player B is in the BB and has been arrogant all day. All else fold and he says call and hasn't even looked at his cards. Board comes. Player B, still without looking, slides his hand to player A and says ' you flip it over, I haven't looked yet'. Player A throws player B's hand into the muck without turning them over.

Ruling: Sorry player B your hand was called dead, and you have no recourse to the pot.

Typical downtown poker here in the D

I can't imagine anything this dumb happening, but if it did I'd rule the same. Then warn or toss both players.

With the group of regs (and non-regs) I've run into 'down there' I would lean more towards true story ... and 3 different ways the floor would handle this spot based on time of day!! GL

I mean I don't want to get in the way of players having fun, but it's only fun if both (or all) players think it is, which obviously isn't the case if it makes it to needing a floor ruling.

I'm also ok with 3 different floor rulings, because there is no rule about what another player can do with your hands of you give it to them and ask them to turn it over. OPTAH violation? Touching another player's hand violation? Simon says violation?

I have personally witnessed this situation and I don't live in Detroit.

Rookie question time if you so please!
TD discussion is way more entertaining than sports bet bad beats, right?

If someone could satisfy my curiosity and offer an explaination as to why we make this a call and not commit to a min raise, I would be filled with gratitude.

Blinds 1/2
Raise to 6
Player behind silently throws in two redbirds

I think it is rule 93 or something in the WSOP TD rulebook; since the first 5 is too small to call the bet the second cannot be used to raise. I get the rule, I just cannot come up with any good reason why we default to call as opposed to raise there. In other words, what angle are we preventing here? Who are we protecting?

The situation comes to mind where it is t200/400, raise to 1200 and someone throws in their last two 1k chips. Why, when we nit it up with this rule, would we force a call and not go with what is likely intended as all-in?

Really appreciate all the nuggets dropped while lurking this tread. You people are awesome. Thanks.

Because our job as dealers and floors is to administer and run the game, not to guess a player's likely intent.

Guessing and assuming intent is not part of my job, nor should it be.

When someone does something which naturally could be interpreted in two different ways we need to have rule that tells us which way to interpret the act. If the rule said this was a raise ..... you could have made the exact same post asking why the rule doesn't make this a call.

It's late at night/early morning only a few bj tables open I chose an empty table even though there's seats open with players to play hu, dealer is really good n straight to business. Just bam bam as fast as I can get my chips out, then a dealer push n this dealer starts with all the shenanigans, joking bout switching cards, flipping 6s to 9s, all the bs. I just politely smile but try not to engage too much hoping she'd get the hint but she was relentless. What's the polite way to handle that? She's trying to be friendly n fun but you'd think itd be obvious someone choosing an empty table at 4am just wants action

You'll probably get better responses about pit games in the Other Gambling Games forum.

procedure question:

Dealing a room that has button straddle so therefore is my understanding button has to keep moving to prevent someone from having hte ability to button straddle 2 hands in a row. Seat 5 missed 1 hands, his small blind and returns next hand. Button has to move to seat 5, to prevent seat 4 from being able to button straddle 2 hands in a row. seeat 5 has paid his BB and only missed his SB, can he get the button and post a dead small? or does he have to sit out 1 more hand and come in behind the button?

You either use the dead button rule or moving button rule. You don't a switch mid game. I am not aware of a rule which precludes straddling twice in a row. If your room has this rule then it needs to also address the situation you describe.

In my room a player can straddle 2 hands in a row. And having nothing to do with that ... if a player misses his small blind he can make it up dead on the button.

I miss Dealer Guy. I feel like short of amazing Dinesh posts, there haven't been many people that consistently give good answers to pretty much any posts.

Appreciate the kind words. I also miss some of the great posters from before, who were doing it long before me. That's just the nature of message boards, and of life, really. People come and people go.

I only frequent a few forums here, so I wonder if some of them aren't just hanging out in other places here on 2+2 these days, but I'd guess most of them don't, they just moved on with life somehow. I'll tip a 40 in their memory.

If I recall correctly, we heard from another forum reg about a year ago that DG is alive and well. I miss his posts too.

A couple times at BJ dealer took too many cards, hit a hard 17 or something, and I've been at 1st base and both times its been an Ace, pit boss instructs the dealer to reverse the hit n burn the card. Obviously I want that A, is there any room to question the ruling?