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I hit the Bad Beat Jackpot, while another player was conterfeited I hit the Bad Beat Jackpot, while another player was conterfeited

03-25-2017 , 07:03 PM
Long story short I hit a Bad beat Jackpot 3 ways. Unbelievable hand where I had quad Aces, one player had quad Queens, and another player had the Royal Flush. Because the Aces were a better hand than the Queens I received the 50% portion of the bbj while the queens received table share, and of course the Royal received 25%. My question is should I have felt bad enough about the queens that he should receive a portion of my percentage? My instincts say that this is the poker world and I need to maximize my equity and not worry about it because the rule is already in place for a ridiculous situation like this. Not going to say I would expect anyone else to be kind enough to pass a higher percentage off to me if I were in the queens shoes. I received around $26k for this hand while The queens received about $2k.

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03-25-2017 , 07:14 PM
I would buy him a beer.
Domestic.
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03-25-2017 , 07:17 PM
Keep your money. He still got 2k.
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03-25-2017 , 07:27 PM
It's your money. Do whatever you want.

Personally, I'd never just hand another player any money at all unless he/she was already a really close friend or something. 99% of players would never even consider giving you anything if they were actually in that situation, so don't feel like you should or are supposed to. "But it wouldn't have hit if I didn't go out for a smoke." Don't care. "Man, I'm insanely unlucky. I should've gotten a piece of this bad beat with my quads." Don't care.

Similarly, don't let anyone tell you what you're supposed to tip a dealer in this situation. Again, it's your money, do whatever you want. Anyone who tells you that you need to give x% or you're a cheap pos, don't listen. Do what you feel is right. Personally, I would tip something, but I've heard some absolutely absurd percentages being thrown out over the years by some people.

Congrats on your hit. Most of us will never experience it.
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03-25-2017 , 07:28 PM
This is what you're paying your extra rake for and you're thinking about giving it away?
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03-25-2017 , 07:30 PM
you have no reason to feel bad. there were hundreds of different factors that went into this happening. if the guy w K10 folds pre, the QQ gets 26k and you are left with a smaller share
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03-25-2017 , 07:42 PM
If it was written into the rules, then no. If it wasn't, and the house made the decision on the fly, I might feel bad. I would also probably have proposed a chop with QQ if there wasn't a rule, but that is me.

On a side note, what was the action preflop that allowed the K10 to hang around?
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03-25-2017 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ChachiArcola


On a side note, what was the action preflop that allowed the K10 to hang around?
Note the small stack (main pot?) in front of Seat 5.
Possible that one player (K10?) was all in preflop.

What I would like to know is which came on the flop, the A or the A ?
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03-25-2017 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
Note the small stack (main pot?) in front of Seat 5.
Possible that one player (K10?) was all in preflop.

What I would like to know is which came on the flop, the A I hit the Bad Beat Jackpot, while another player was conterfeited: or the A I hit the Bad Beat Jackpot, while another player was conterfeited ?
It was AI hit the Bad Beat Jackpot, while another player was conterfeited QI hit the Bad Beat Jackpot, while another player was conterfeited JI hit the Bad Beat Jackpot, while another player was conterfeited flop. There was 1 limp UTG, I was UTG+1 I raise to 15. Get 5 calls. Flop I bet $45. QQ shoves like $175, K10 calls for a shorter stack (like $90ish) I call off hoping to pair the board+getting a nearly freeroll call because of Aces cracked promotion for $99

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03-25-2017 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ChachiArcola
On a side note, what was the action preflop that allowed the K10 to hang around?
It was suited.

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Originally Posted by rtd353
you have no reason to feel bad. there were hundreds of different factors that went into this happening. if the guy w K10 folds pre, the QQ gets 26k and you are left with a smaller share
Good point. QQ guy did this to himself for not reraising pre. I wouldn't have given him anything.
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03-26-2017 , 01:20 AM
Did aces full of queens vs quad queens qualify for the badbeat?
If so, then shouldn't the KsTs guy be the one that should feel bad?
If not, then running As,Qs or Qs,As was literally the only way for you guys to hit the badbeat anyway.

Also, your equities on the flop.

Ac Ad 23.8%
Ks Ts 71.4%
Qd Qh 4.8%

Not to mention your equity in the side pot
Ac Ad 95%
Qd Qh 5%

Feel bad? Maybe a little. Give him money? Doubtful.
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03-26-2017 , 02:11 AM
Thanks for posting the pic! We all get to see an actual hand that none of us is likely to see in our games ever.
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03-26-2017 , 02:28 AM
He didn't get counterfeited. The river made the Royal as well as your hand.
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03-26-2017 , 03:09 AM
How did the QQ player take it? He musta be crying up a storm!! If he re-raises pre it's probably heads up with you and on that flop it's all going in. 24K mistake lol
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03-26-2017 , 12:06 PM
What an awesome hand and thanks for the pic. Keep all the money and offer to buy him a drink away from the table.
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03-26-2017 , 01:21 PM
If royal guy wasn't in the hand and your quads beat queen quads, would you feel bad and give him money? I wouldn't give him a cent. It's poker, not third grade soccer.
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03-26-2017 , 01:39 PM
this has to be one of rarest hands ever played.
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03-26-2017 , 02:18 PM
OP great hit! and pic. Definitely would not feel obligated to give free money to the quad Q's player. Offering to buy everyone at the table a celebratory drink or two would be my move.
Can you give any other details about the hand? Were the cards turned up before the runout? players reactions?
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03-26-2017 , 05:29 PM
Maybe they should have a super bad beat jackpot to pay when someone gets bad beat out of a bad beat jackpot......
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03-26-2017 , 05:32 PM
No need to give him anything, as he already got $2,000 - a very good score for a 1 2 player.
If that room was not paying table share, just the losing hand and winning hand - I would say go ahead and give him $500 or so.
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03-27-2017 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by psandman
Maybe they should have a super bad beat jackpot to pay when someone gets bad beat out of a bad beat jackpot......
If the casino can find a way to take 30% as an administrative fee, I'm sure they can make this happen.
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03-27-2017 , 07:05 AM
Talk about suck - re-suck!! As stated before ... Was QQQQ v AAAQQ good enough for the BBJ, or did you need quad v quad? Depends on the casino .. some have a mini and major BBJ. From the size of the payout I'm guessing that AAAJJ is the min qualifying hand?

At Motor City Casino in Detroit this really would've been a bad beat since the major portion of the BBJ is only paid out when quads beats quads. The Royal would been a 'royal' pain in butt here!! Still good for the 'mini' but that's only 10% of the major BBJ.

If anything the KT hand should give some cash out/buy drinks since he wasn't bid out of the hand PF. Both you and the KT player received around $11k more than you 'should have' if you GII PF v QQ.

Your money, do what you want. There are plenty of threads here that talk about what to tip the dealer or someone who was in the bathroom. Just to top it off, I did 'tip' a player who had just gone to the bathroom when I hit a high hand promo. You are 'plus' $13K here ... enjoy your 'double' good fortune. GL

Last edited by answer20; 03-27-2017 at 07:13 AM.
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03-27-2017 , 10:58 AM
Hold up. Why would the quad Aces get the BBJ?
The quad Q's got beaten by two players.
What if there was a side pot, potentially larger that the main? Can you win the hand and still get the low end jackpot?
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03-27-2017 , 11:12 AM
Most Bad Beat Jackpots specifically mention that it only depends upon what happens in the main pot.
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03-27-2017 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by The Drifter
Hold up. Why would the quad Aces get the BBJ?
The quad Q's got beaten by two players.
What if there was a side pot, potentially larger that the main? Can you win the hand and still get the low end jackpot?
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Originally Posted by Mat the Gambler
Most Bad Beat Jackpots specifically mention that it only depends upon what happens in the main pot.
Every casino will have it's own set of rules that are approved by their governing body, but in this weird case where there are 3 qualifying hands they take the 'top 2' ranking hands for the BBJ.

It's true ... and hopefully paid out correctly to our OP ... that he actually won the side pot against the quad Qs but since the drop for the BBJ comes out of the main (normally) that's where they look at all qualifying hands.

Should a main pot somehow not meet the threshold ($10 or $20) for a BBJ drop but a side pot (when combined with the main) does push it over the threshold, then that's the pot they would look at for the qualifying hands.

Can you imagine if the Royal was all-in for $6 in the BB here and the main pot was only $19!! Talk about a bad beat ...

If the quad Qs had been the short stack here, then the Royal wins it all anyway .. So it wouldn't matter that he was part of both the side and main pots. GL
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