2/5 nlh. I'm raise 15 preflop on CO, villain in sb calls (relative unknown at that time, but he had moved seats three times in the past 20 minutes to find the perfect seat to get position on perceived bad players at the table). I have 10dJd 10
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pot 32
flop 9h 10s js. x, I flop top 2 and cbet 25, he calls.
pot 82
turn 3d, villain shakes head and sighs, checks. I quickly check my top 2 back solely because of the tell.
river 8d
villain checks. I check back as there is 4 to a straight. villain announces K high (rule in the cardroom is that if no aggresive action on river, player oop shows first), however in these spots out of goodwill I will always show when villian announces air oop. I showed my top 2 to claim the pot, and he tables Kd7d, dealer awards pot to me, nobody at the table said anything. move on to next hand
when next hand is dealt, villian suddenly claims that he just realised he had a lower straight on the previous hand (I honestly did not realise, neither did anyone at the table as well as the dealer). floor was called, ruling was that it was the previous hand and new hand has been dealt, so i wasnt obliged to return the pot. however, I did the right thing and offered to give the pot back to him, because I'm a nice guy.
I was also slightly ashamed at the time as it seemed that I had knowingly kept quiet when the other guy tabled a wining hand. It was so uncharacteristic of me but I could not figure out what went wrong and why had I overlooked his straight (as did everyone else on the table)
Something did not feel right, I was asking myself why did everyone overlooked his straight? It was only 15 minutes later that I realised that all that happened was because he announced K high which prompted me to table 2 pair, and at that point the pot was already pushed to me by dealer. He tabled K high which indeed looked like a missed gutshot to the higher straight, but nobody cared about the 7. nobody questioned that my 2 pair was good when he announced K high and indeed showed a K in his hand.
later on, the villain had played extremely tight, seems to know the fundementals of the game, and had never showed his hand. which means that
1. he would have never called 25 into a 32 pot for a bare gutshot oop on a two tone flop. he clearly knew he had a double gutter
2. there was no reason for him to table K7 AFTER I've already been awarded the pot, especially the main reason he announced K high when he had to show first (or any player that announce but not show in similar situations), is because they do not want to show their cards/they feel slighly embarrassed about that hand. Tabling his hand after all these does not make any sense.
3. the shaking of head and sigh on the turn was clearly a reverse-tell/hollywood. he knew exactly what he was doing and he knew I was capable of picking up tells. he had done so to get a free river card. he knew he had 8 outs, Qs and 8s. It is unlikely he would have overlooked the 8 on the river
I felt that I should not have given him the pot because looking back it was clear what he was doing. playing devils advocate though, maybe he genuinely thought he had K high when he announced, and straight away realised he had a lower straight, but did not want to show immediately as it will make him look bad, and therefore purposefully delayed pointing out the entire thing to make it look like a genuine mistake. However I think it is unlikely because when you pay 25 on the flop to hit your double gutter, reverse-hollywood the turn to get a free card, you will be praying for a q or an 8 on the river. it is unlikely that he would have misread his hand.
on the other hand, if what he had done was indeed intentional, it seemed that the only thing he could gain out of doing so was to see my hand before showing his, which does seem a stretch too far to gain information especially when not all the players will table their hand immediately like I did. or maybe he was ashamed that he had checked a straight on the river????? what do you guys think? what would you have done in my spot?
Last edited by dayurou; 06-21-2017 at 09:03 PM.