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12-21-2015 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mojojo16
An average dealer is NOT between 35-40 hands per hour. You either have never actually counted a dealers hands per down or are delusional. Please review previous threads as there is one about average hands per hour
Link to threads?

35-40HPH is very average. If my dealers aren't getting in 34HPH I am looking into it to find out why they are so slow. I expect 34 minimum and hope for 40, but 36-37 is average.

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Originally Posted by suited fours
Lots of delusion itt. Excellent live dealers deliver 32ph. Only a few elite top that.

Source : I play pokerz.
See the above.

Source: I run a poker room. I will be sure to thank every one of my dealers for qualifying for your "elite list". You must play in a horribly run room or you strictly play Omaha.
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12-21-2015 , 09:59 PM
ty suit for backing me up. I know what i used to get out, and I know I was avg for my room. there were many faster dealers and the day shift old timers were the slowest.
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12-22-2015 , 01:00 AM
We use 37hph as the average to do our paperwork. Audit team (the paperwork checkers) and count team (the guys who count how much is actually in the rake box each day) don't complain so I'd say it is fairly accurate.
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03-05-2017 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kimoser22
Just a PSA on the lock for the safety deposit box room, make sure if you flip the lock to the lock position (pointing at the door frame) you flip it back towards the door before leaving the room...the door will let you open the door from the inside with the lock in the "locked position" and then will remain locked from the outside...
Are there any electronic poker tables with live dealers and real cards?
you load $ onto your terminal from your players card. easy to see bets, pot size, and players stack amounts.

no chips, and no need for deposit boxes.

kinda like Maryland Live with electronic craps and baccarat but one step further with $ loaded/redeemed onto your players card.
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03-05-2017 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
Are there any electronic poker tables with live dealers and real cards?
you load $ onto your terminal from your players card. easy to see bets, pot size, and players stack amounts.

no chips, and no need for deposit boxes.

kinda like Maryland Live with electronic craps and baccarat but one step further with $ loaded/redeemed onto your players card.
So eliminate all the aspects that make live poker fun?
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03-06-2017 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
Are there any electronic poker tables with live dealers and real cards?
you load $ onto your terminal from your players card. easy to see bets, pot size, and players stack amounts.

no chips, and no need for deposit boxes.

kinda like Maryland Live with electronic craps and baccarat but one step further with $ loaded/redeemed onto your players card.
Excalibur had poker somewhat like this back around 2009-2010. The tables were operated by a firm called "Poker PRO" and were 100% electronic. In fact, my 2+2 avatar is a photo of part of one of those tables. You logged in with a swipe card and could choose your own username.

The Horseshoe in Hammond, IN also had similar e-tables, at least for a little while.

I think Poker PRO might still have tables on cruise ships. Don't think they ever caught on in live casinos, though.
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03-07-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.K

I think Poker PRO might still have tables on cruise ships. Don't think they ever caught on in live casinos, though.
PokerPro tables are still being used at Woodbine Racetrack in Toronto and they are doing pretty well. I believe they are also still used in N.C
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03-08-2017 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mojojo16
PokerPro tables are still being used at Woodbine Racetrack in Toronto and they are doing pretty well. I believe they are also still used in N.C
NC is all live tables for about a year now.
There is an electronic room in Arkansas near memphis. Can't say whether or not they are PokerPro brand.
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03-08-2017 , 01:49 PM
Have never seen/heard of a hybrid electronic table. Only fully automated. Doubt there would be any appeal to it, judging by the underwhelming response to the PokerPro tables that used to populate some casinos, including the one I work at.

The fact that this thread is risen from the dustbin only about every two years should be your main indicator of how many places still have them.
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03-08-2017 , 02:53 PM
To be fair, these etables are absolutely amazing for PLO and other mixed games. 3x more hands per hour with absolute no down time while chopping pots, counting out pot sized bets etc.

Perhaps with the increasing popularity of PLO in many major casinos, these PokerPro tables can find a niche market
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03-09-2017 , 08:51 AM
I think e-tables have a place in any poker room, especially for tournaments and especially even more for low entry donkaments. They don't have to be raked as heavy since no dealers are involved. You can put on a donkament with a decent structure in a matter of 3-5 hours with no real muss or fuss. There was a boat casino in Shreveport who had a low buyin tournament on them every Wednesday night a few years ago, and it attracted a steady 50 players. We'd bring about 5-10 every week from work. Others did the same. It was awesome-$45 buyin and everyone had a great time. Louisiana casinos are free booze at tables, so that made it even better. The problem was that the room got no cash game action. A reasonable solution for a smart room might be a combination of e-tables and live dealer tables. Use e-tables for tournaments (perhaps in bigger tournaments, switch to live dealers after the pay bubble breaks to add drama), and use live tables for cash games. Although there is no reason not to leave the etables open for cash games when no tournaments are using them. Some players might appreciate the higher hands per hour, no tipping, etc.
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03-13-2017 , 03:37 PM
E-tables were never successful for the same reason that driver-less taxis aren't ever going to be successful:

When it comes to personal life and money people feel a lot more comfortable having the human element in the equation. You can trust a person and have confidence in them, but you can't "trust" a machine and have confidence in it the same way.
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03-13-2017 , 08:54 PM
I can see e-tables for single table sit and goes but never for a tournament. If electronic, they will break and there would have to be a pretty good back up plan in case of breaks.

The single table tourneys at the series would be an excellent place for if one breaks the delay is non critical .

Also, as above, people are better.
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