Omaha/8 with 1/2 kill at the Isle in South Florida.

Button seat 8, sb seat 9, bb seat 10, seat 1 has the kill button. (Action begins to the immediate left of the bb in kill pots and the kill acts in turn.)

Before seat 1 does anything, he hasn't even touched his cards which are lying in front of him, seat 2 calls and seat 3 folds, tossing his cards toward the dealer and right next to seat 1's cards. Dealer grabs seat 3's cards but also gets one of seat 1's cards mixed into the pile and doesn't know which one belonged to seat 1.

A bit of confused discussion happens, the dealer is implored three times to call the floor before he finally does so. Floor comes over, dealer give floor accurate description of what happened, and floor rules that seat 1 is allowed to play the hand with three cards.

Huh? I have never heard of such a ruling. I was in the camp arguing that seat 1's hand is dead and he has to forfeit his kill. Anyone?

Some houses allow the hand to continue with three cards in Omaha. If this is the house rule, then there is no further discussion. It's my thoughts that any hand with the incorrect number of cards should be dead immediately and all money in the pot forfeited. Protect your hands, protect your actions, pay attention!

Personally I like the decision as long as it is consistently ruled that way.

now the questions is... is action back on kill because he hasn't acted yet?

Yes, the floor backed up the action to seat 1.

I'm happy with this ruling, as the player gains no advantage. The "improper cards" rule is more for having too many, not too few.

If other players have a problem with it, they should pay more attention to the action and not act out of turn. It's on all of us to protect the game. If we don't, then we have no room to complain if a ruling goes a way we don't like.

Interesting rule. I don't hate it, but don't like it. If it was a total donk and I didn't have a playable hand I'd be super upset because he could easily go broke here. If it's a reg, he'll probably fold no matter what.

Why do you want his hand dead? What advantage does he have losing a card? How do his odds increase? Sounds like you just wanted a free 2BB's.

Basically this ruling makes the floor not the bad guy, which can be decent, but can be bad often.

I personally don't take one call and one fold as significant action and would kill the whole hand, especially with a kill button out. Just my 2c.

He had Ac 2c 3h 3h and dumped one of the threes?

In the interests of fairness, he should sit out this hand and take back his blind. He did nothing wrong and he shouldn't be penalized for the dealer's mistake.

Another reason that seats 1 and 10 should be abolished and all games played 8-handed (semi-serious, semi tongue in cheek)

Well he didn't protect his hand.

Don't know if this happened here, but if I'm in the 1 seat I will often lean slightly back out of the way while the dealer is dealing.

Many players sit with their hands in front of their stack on the table which makes it difficult for the dealer to get round them.

Just saying.

That is appreciated, but no need to lean back, just keep your hands back so I can hit the 2 seat.

Here the 1 seat had all 4 of his cards, and the dealer dealt 7 more cards around to the button,
and the 2 and 3 seats acted, and seat 1 still hadn't touched his cards.
Not protecting his hand very well is he?

If Seat 1 is UTG. That means when the dealer deals him his last card, he can lean forward safely after the dealer deals seat 2/3. In the time in took for the dealer to finish dealing, he still had not touched his cards.

Players also do 10000 other things that make it difficult for the dealer.

This particular player spent his time between hands checking the racing form and talking over his shoulder to people on the rail, etc. Not especially attentive to the poker game, had to be prompted frequently to take his action. This time, he was doing something else and turned his attention back to the table just in time to see the dealer pulling in one of his cards. He wasn't paying attention when seat 2 called and seat 3 mucked.

Yeah, "lean back" probably wasn't my most accurate description ever, but I definitely get my hands out the way.

Like I said, very much appreciated.

But after you get your cards, take control of them and protect them. (Which I'm sure you do.)