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If you're playing in low buy-in live tournaments, you can't do anything about this. I've seen people openly colluding in almost every live tourney I've played. I've seen it go as far as a guy calling an all in and saying openly, "I'm only calling 'cause I got half your action," and then saying it again after he lost 2/3 of his chips and doubled the other guy up. He was more worried that we would think he was a donk than he was about openly cheating. And of course, nobody says a word, because if you do speak up YOU end up on the ****list for making an issue, and the cheaters and anglers are like "what, I dint do anything, lighten up, don't be so uptight, etc etc."

And it's not just in tournaments either. I've seen plenty of team play going on at the live cash games I've played too, including the $1/$2 PLO at Edgewater, which played a lot bigger than that and where the regs were so openly targeting me, a new face, that if I weren't in the hand it never went to a flop. I've never played above $2/$5 live but every time I play I see guys soft-playing their buddies so there you go.

Sounds like you play in some scummy rooms where the floor favours their regs too much and lets them get away with bs.

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06-04-2017 , 04:24 PM

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2pairsof2s

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,613

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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat

Sounds like you play in some scummy rooms where the floor favours their regs too much and lets them get away with bs.

That's the Vancouver live scene in a nutshell, which is no doubt why it is dying...

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06-04-2017 , 04:28 PM

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LordRiverRat

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Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,675

Then perhaps people need to complain to upper management. If people stop getting away with bs, bs will be less likely to occur.

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06-05-2017 , 12:56 PM

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Goud21

grinder

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 426

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Originally Posted by chillrob

Checking it down to bust a shorty may be standard play, but it also is collusive. If you actually say "check it down", you will likely be penalized.

There's also a huge difference between checking down a huge hand and checking down a marginal hand. If one players is all in and two players have chips still, you're not going to see top set get checked to the river, but you might see a guy with middle pair check it down, even though he might normally bet middle pair on the turn after being checked to twice. There's a lot of strategy in not betting when someone is all in, but there's also something to be said for getting max value for your big hands in a tournament.

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