5 players on the flop. First player bets. Second player calls. Third does not act. Forth and Fifth players call. Turn card is brought by the dealer. It is at this time that it is discovered the third player never called. Players started calling early turn and wanted the turn brought back. The dealer ruled significant action had occurred and the third players hand is dead. The turn card stayed and the the players hand was killed. How do you guys feel about this?

I feel the dealer should have called the Floor and let him make the ruling.

Agreed. What would have been the correct call for the floor person?

It depends on house rules, but in most places I think this was the correct ruling (although the floor should have made it). Generally if 3 people have acted after someone is skipped, he loses his right to action. In this case, 2 players and the dealer had acted.

If the next card had not been dealt, maybe he would be allowed to make a non-aggressive action (call but not raise). In this case, you can't let him call after he sees the turn card, so his hand is dead. He should have had plenty of time to say something if the dealer managed to burn and turn.

As above. Dealer should not be making rulings, floor should.

In general, hand is dead.

If the player is able to make a convincing case that players 4, 5, and dealer all acted super quickly somehow, then I may back it up to him for action, but I am limiting him to calling, then early burn and turn procedure. But this should almost never be the case, and if it is dealer may need some retraining for that. (Did he pull bets in? Tap the felt before burning and turning? Why didn't he (or players 4 and 5) follow the action? Why didn't anyone notice that player 3 hadn't acted?)

Player 3 hand is dead and move on with 'this' Turn card. Two 'chip' actions past a skipped player is enough for significant action. You can always blame the Dealer here for not stopping action ... and certainly for putting the Turn out ... but ultimately it's up to the player to take care of their own business. GL

I have never seen the 3rd player's hand called dead.

Almost always the turn comes back and the player is allowed his action. However, given in this case that the 4th and 5th players have called and their intentions are known, the 3rd player may not be given the option of raising.

Significant action/dead hand.

Floor should make the ruling.
Floor should kill his hand.
Close thread...

I think in most places, two calls alone would not constitute significant action?

In this case, two players and the dealer acted, so a total of 3 actions happened.

Kinda confused by the amount of threads lately where the dealer made a ruling.

Significant action (two actions with chips, or three without) had occurred and the third player's hand is dead.

This is what I was referring to ... It appears cash and tournament still differ here. My reference was to the TDA but RRoP 11 shows you need 3 'players' actions with no regard to what those actions were.

It also doesn't 'direct' the Floor as to how to rule .. only that the Floor 'will' rule on the 'skipped' player's hand. GL

I would usually kill the hand unless when the defense rests I am convinced otherwise. I think Dinesh pretty much said it how I see it.

Dealer shouldn't make a ruling but beyond that, it's pretty hard to have 2 players act after you, have the dealer pull in the bets [I sure hope the dealer is knowledgeable enough to know to pull in all the bets before proceeding to the next street, and burn/turn] and then argue you didn't have enough time to halt the action and proclaim you haven't acted. Allowing the player to keep his hand pretty much lets a player view how the player after him are going to act and gives him a pretty big advantage that someone in his position shouldn't have. It's a feasible angle shoot opportunity that will become quite commonplace if not punished, in this case, it's common to declare his hand dead and then action continues with the remaining players. I have seen this occur with a player that had quite a bit of an issue with paying attention and allowed 3-4 players to act after him before saying anything. Dead hand.