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11-28-2010 , 08:57 PM
Communication devices should not be aloud at the table. Just rude. Not to mention the possibility of collusion or poker programs being run.

Ipods to listen to music I have no problem with. Ipods only, not Phones that store music so one can sneak a text or call.

A.D.D. shouldn't be able to effect peoples lives that are fortunate enough not to have it.

Last edited by JONATHANM; 11-28-2010 at 09:03 PM.
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11-28-2010 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JONATHANM
Communication devices should not be aloud at the table. Just rude. Not to mention the possibility of collusion or poker programs being run.

Ipods to listen to music I have no problem with. Ipods only, not Phones that store music so one can sneak a text or call.

A.D.D. shouldn't be able to intrude on peoples lives that are fortunate enough not to have it.
I think you're being a bit unreasonable here. Like it or not, cell phones (and especially smart phones) are part of today's society. They are used an enormous amount of time and for good reason - they do an enormous amount of things.

In reality, is there a high level of possibility of collusion or poker software? I'd say absolutely not. Is it possible? Sure. Highly likely? No.

I agree with not actively using the device while in a hand, sure. But some people want them out and out banned, which I think is a bit too far. When I get a call I get up from the table. When I'm not in a hand though, I do text/browse/listen to music. I don't think this is unreasonable.

What do you think?
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11-28-2010 , 09:19 PM
idk. Like I said, music I don't have a problem with. Getting up from table while texting, calling, I also don't have a problem with. But with todays technology and the ease of collusion through text, i'd rather be safe than sorry really. There's no legitimate reason for one to be texting at a poker table imo, in the hand or not..

Poker is inherently a boring tedious game when being played live. That's just something that has to be dealt with.
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11-28-2010 , 09:24 PM
I browse/text when I am not in a hand and after I have folded.

Should I be focusing more on the game? Absoluately!

If someone is using their phone to fart around on the internet and not slowing the game up then there should be no problem with it.

I actually noticed over the weekend at another poker room, people that are eating their lunch/dinner at the table slows the game more than when someone is playing on their cell phone. Putting the food down, wiping their hands, etc really slows the game down.
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11-28-2010 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JONATHANM
Communication devices should not be aloud at the table. Just rude. Not to mention the possibility of collusion or poker programs being run.

Ipods to listen to music I have no problem with. Ipods only, not Phones that store music so one can sneak a text or call.

A.D.D. shouldn't be able to effect peoples lives that are fortunate enough not to have it.
My Droid IS my music player. Who are you to dictate which type of music playing device I choose to use?

I use my phone at the table. I text. I read. Whatever. I never do it while in a hand. Ever. I am 100% against anyone using a device, talking on the phone, texting, reading a Cardplayer mag, making a cocktail exchange, watching a horse race or anything else that is distracting while they are in a hand. When out of a hand, different story.

And I always get up from the table when talking on the phone.

You really can't do anything about devices and collusion with the exception of keeping folks off their devices, music player or otherwise, while in a hand. If two friends are at the same table texting information back and forth, if they are not doing it while in hands, the collusion is as irrealevent to the device as if those two got up from the table and made a verbal exchange, or just spoke to each other in a different language.
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11-28-2010 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mixn123
or just spoke to each other in a different language.
Where do you play that people are allowed to talk to each other in a foreign language?

Disturbing Trend: Guy at the table had what I think is the new Apple Ipad? Anyways, a thin notebook sized screen, he is connected to wi-fi and downloading and watching movies on the internet. I kind of kept an eye cocked over at him, how hard would it be to pull up poker stove or some other online odds calculator in the middle of a hand?
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11-28-2010 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mixn123
My Droid IS my music player. Who are you to dictate which type of music playing device I choose to use?
Like I said, I'd rather be safe than sorry. Communication devices should not be able to be used at the table. Not saying you would collude, or use a poker program, but others doing so in todays techno-society is too much of a risk.This possibility should be nipped in the bud to protect the integrity of the game.

Sorry that you have your music through your phone. A phone is a communication device and a possible tool to cheat players at the table.

Not saying anyone would use their phone as a cheat device. But the right thing to do is restrict them from use while at the table to negate any possibility of illegal activity. No grey area. It's just good business as well as good for the players and the game.
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11-28-2010 , 10:11 PM
What happened to all the points about phones and such at the table? I was gonna add that it is absurd to ban phones from the table. Why can I not use my phone to text and browse the interent when I am not in a hand? As soon as a new hand is dealt, I put my phone away until I am done with the hand.
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11-28-2010 , 10:42 PM
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What happened to all the points about phones and such at the table? I was gonna add that it is absurd to ban phones from the table. Why can I not use my phone to text and browse the interent when I am not in a hand? As soon as a new hand is dealt, I put my phone away until I am done with the hand.
100% Agreed. That is what I do.
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11-28-2010 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mixn123
Yeah, it may have been sounding a bit bitchy, but after a 9 hour session in the same chair, it would have been nice to listen to some more tunes as opposed to hearing the guy next to me calling out every single board card as it hit.

Yet look around, pretty much 2/10 at a table are nearly guaranteed to fiddling with their devices at any one time but I don't think we'll ever ultimately meet your delusions of grandeur.
I know and I try to not let it tilt me, but sometimes is still does.

We had 23 people for dinner at the house on Thanksgiving. Four of them (2 teens and 2 [loosely defined] ADULTS) were either surfing or texting or some kind of tweet/fb BS. During dinner. On Thanksgiving.

It's really pretty sad.

My wife goes on uber-tilt and tells them to put away the phones or GTFO. I love that lady.
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11-28-2010 , 11:39 PM
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See and I was going to leave his spelling out of it cause he is a East Coaster.
Aloud = allowed.
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11-28-2010 , 11:44 PM
At Casino Arizona you can't touch your phone if you're in a hand during tourney play. You can at the cash tables. Often they slow the game down but the upside is is that there are many players who practically run their businesses using their phones and wouldn't be able to play w/o them. So there's the good and the bad: inconvenience v. more players and I'd rather have more players.
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11-28-2010 , 11:46 PM
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Where do you play that people are allowed to talk to each other in a foreign language?
Nowhere. Where did I ever say I did?

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Disturbing Trend: Guy at the table had what I think is the new Apple Ipad? Anyways, a thin notebook sized screen, he is connected to wi-fi and downloading and watching movies on the internet. I kind of kept an eye cocked over at him, how hard would it be to pull up poker stove or some other online odds calculator in the middle of a hand?
It wouldn't be hard.

That's why devices shouldn't be allowed to be used, touched, accessed or anything while that person is involved in a hand.

You not in a hand? I frankly don't care if you finish the Cardplayer article, follow the football game, order a drink from the waitress or check the holdem odds calculator to see if you made the right fold a hand or so ago. Just not during your hand.

Last edited by mixn123; 11-28-2010 at 11:54 PM. Reason: misspell
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11-28-2010 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JONATHANM
Like I said, I'd rather be safe than sorry. Communication devices should not be able to be used at the table. Not saying you would collude, or use a poker program, but others doing so in todays techno-society is too much of a risk.This possibility should be nipped in the bud to protect the integrity of the game.

Sorry that you have your music through your phone. A phone is a communication device and a possible tool to cheat players at the table.

Not saying anyone would use their phone as a cheat device. But the right thing to do is restrict them from use while at the table to negate any possibility of illegal activity. No grey area. It's just good business as well as good for the players and the game.
Why are you sorry I have music through my phone? I ****ing love it. It's so convenient. I feel sorry you need to carry both your ipod and cell phone.

In the world of high versatility devices, it's impossible to rule devices just outright banned. Quite frankly, I don't understand what type of colluding you are so dramatically concerned with that mobile devices are capable of?

If dealers are instructed to keep players off their devices while in hands, I don't care what magical program/app you have that help you cheat or collude or whatever, it isn't going to make one iota of difference if you are disallowed to use it while in that hand.

Last edited by Rapini; 11-28-2010 at 11:59 PM. Reason: profanity filter dodging
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11-29-2010 , 05:55 AM
I'm always suspicious when I see someone on their phone.
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11-29-2010 , 06:45 AM
You must be suspicious a lot, then.
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11-29-2010 , 06:58 AM
Yeah, I am. *Twitch twitch*
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11-29-2010 , 04:44 PM
I think you should be aloud(allowed) to surf the net while playing poker. Also you should be aloud to knit.
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11-30-2010 , 01:18 AM
Room I played in recently had rule of "no phones while in the hand." Simple and short. While it can piss people off, it saves all arguements in terms of cheating. How can the other players and dealer tell if you are mindlessly on the internet, or getting texts from some one else at the table? Saves time, petty arguements, and keeps people focused.
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11-30-2010 , 09:50 AM
No cell phones while you are in a hand sound most reasonable. Outside of the cheating aspect, there is also the fact that it slows down the game. This seems to be the most common way to go about it from my limited experience. Harrah's in North Carolina does not allow any electronic devices at the table whatsoever at any time(no cellphones, no ipods, no earphones in period, etc even if you are not in the hand) which I've always found to be a bit excessive
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11-30-2010 , 10:05 AM
Take an electronic device to the blackjack tables. Observe what happens. That is the casino's money. Why do you think that is?
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11-30-2010 , 12:12 PM
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Take an electronic device to the blackjack tables. Observe what happens. That is the casino's money. Why do you think that is?
Sit out a couple of blackjack hands and fiddle with your device. I could be wrong, but I don't believe this would be a problem.

If you are sitting at a poker table not in a hand, I just don't see the issue.
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11-30-2010 , 12:44 PM
Then why not just allow laptops at the table, so you can surf, work, watch porn or play online??? Where does it end?

Is your attention span that short, such that you need to be constantly amused by your device?

The sense of entitlement that people have around this issue is just amazing. While individually, many folks that are using devices may not be slowing the game down, collectively it often does.
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11-30-2010 , 01:48 PM
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Sit out a couple of blackjack hands and fiddle with your device. I could be wrong, but I don't believe this would be a problem.
Yap, sit at a blackjack table (playing or not) and fiddle with an electronic device. See what happens.
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11-30-2010 , 01:53 PM
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Sit out a couple of blackjack hands and fiddle with your device. I could be wrong, but I don't believe this would be a problem.
At my casino they make you get up and step away from the table to use your phone... for anything - talking, texting, etc.
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