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jasonb 03-01-2009 03:51 PM

Cell phones at table
 
I was in a tpirnamen at borgata I didn't think talking on phones was allowed but I noticed guy next to me playing with iPod touch so I didn't think there would be a problem with checkking my email on my iphone so. I began to do just that. Then dealer chimes in with his 2 cents says no cell phones . So I say i'm not on phone but checking my email. ( they have wifi) so he says email or texting not allowed either. So I say if this gentleman canplay with iPod then I can play with mine too since that's essentially what the iPhone is. Then dealer And several other players become irate and start insisting that I'm not allowed to check email at table. So I call floor over but the td comes over instead and says it fine just no talking on phone anything else is ok. So I ask if I can watch porn on iPhone and he even ok'd that so I thought dealer was a dooshbag for making up and enforcing his own rules. Incidentally I think this is a good rule and you shouldn't be allowed to talk on phone due to rudeness and slowing down the game for a tourney. But in a cash game I think the players who are paying thehouse to play shoulld police the game themselves and decide if and when falling on phones is ok l. Depending on the particular players/ fish some players/sonators should be able to have a whole different set of rules
Also in a cash game the dealer shoud just deal and handle game related issues and not worry if sommeones talking on phone or eating or whatever
Does anyone agree?

cedarwater 03-01-2009 04:17 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
No because the dealer's job is to enforce the house rules especially in lower limit games. This is to protect the newer players, the players who don't want to be deemed "jerks" by speaking up and the integrity of the game. If the dealer is doing their job by enforcing the rules the table captain can concentrate on the game.

See http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...rs-b-m-424827/ for the definition of table captain.

Pot Odds RAC 03-01-2009 04:20 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonb (Post 9078313)
I was in a tpirnamen at borgata I didn't think talking on phones was allowed but I noticed guy next to me playing with iPod touch so I didn't think there would be a problem with checkking my email on my iphone so. I began to do just that. Then dealer chimes in with his 2 cents says no cell phones . So I say i'm not on phone but checking my email. ( they have wifi) so he says email or texting not allowed either. So I say if this gentleman canplay with iPod then I can play with mine too since that's essentially what the iPhone is. Then dealer And several other players become irate and start insisting that I'm not allowed to check email at table. So I call floor over but the td comes over instead and says it fine just no talking on phone anything else is ok. So I ask if I can watch porn on iPhone and he even ok'd that so I thought dealer was a dooshbag for making up and enforcing his own rules. Incidentally I think this is a good rule and you shouldn't be allowed to talk on phone due to rudeness and slowing down the game for a tourney. But in a cash game I think the players who are paying thehouse to play shoulld police the game themselves and decide if and when falling on phones is ok l. Depending on the particular players/ fish some players/sonators should be able to have a whole different set of rules
Also in a cash game the dealer shoud just deal and handle game related issues and not worry if sommeones talking on phone or eating or whatever
Does anyone agree?

Sounds like you were basically looking for a fight.

Your "Let's Make up the rules as we feel like it" strategy would work great at a table full of guys like yourself just looking for fights and rule loopholes. I'm certain there'd never be any angle-shooting nor taking advantage of players who don't look for conflict. Believe it or not, many players - even good, experienced players - don't like to have to negotiate house rules every few minutes.

Oh, and spell check for the win.

Tanhands36 03-01-2009 04:34 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
I also have a IPhone, I play in Vegas where I live and in Phx AZ where I work. For the most part communication devices are not aloud. The idea is not the rudeness but the ability to give information to other players which would be cheating. I am not saying you were cheating I am saying talking, texting and emailing could be used to tell your brother in law what cards you have. That is why they are not aloud. The Floor was just defusing the situation and the dealer was not making up his own rules. When I use the IPod part of my phone I have been asked if I was using the phone features by a floor and showed that I wasn't without any problems and we all move on to the next hand.
Just my thoughts.

jasonb 03-01-2009 04:35 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC (Post 9078835)
Sounds like you were basically looking for a fight.

Your "Let's Make up the rules as we feel like it" strategy would work great at a table full of guys like yourself just looking for fights and rule loopholes. I'm certain there'd never be any angleshooting nor taking advantage of players who don't look for conflict. Believe it or not, many players - even good, experienced players - don't like to have to negotiate house rules every few minutes.

Oh, and spell check for the win.

well should we let each dealer sit down and change rules every half hour sir?
i just wanted to check my email never looking for a fight. if i wanted to argue woulda stayed home with my wife sir.
just didnt think checking email was different than playing with ipods since i was technically playing with my ipod.
dealer sorta peeved me cause he said it was ok for gentleman next to me to play with ipod since he had headphones. didnt realize you ca play with ipod if youre wearing headphones not if youre not. my bad. i was looking for a fight though but the dealer wasnt. i just wanted to play with my ipod like everyone else sir. sorry for fighting and being a dooshbag my bad again.

Tanhands36 03-01-2009 04:36 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
See and I was going to leave his spelling out of it cause he is a East Coaster.

jasonb 03-01-2009 04:38 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
and why do they have wifi in pokerroom if youre not allowed to check email???
silly question prolly:confused:

jasonb 03-01-2009 04:39 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanhands36 (Post 9079129)
See and I was going to leave his spelling out of it cause he is a East Coaster.

sorry hrd to type on little iphone keyboard.:D
ROFLMFAO

Pot Odds RAC 03-01-2009 04:41 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonb (Post 9079103)
well should we let each dealer sit down and change rules every half hour sir?
i just wanted to check my email never looking for a fight. if i wanted to argue woulda stayed home with my wife sir.
just didnt think checking email was different than playing with ipods since i was technically playing with my ipod.
dealer sorta peeved me cause he said it was ok for gentleman next to me to play with ipod since he had headphones. didnt realize you ca play with ipod if youre wearing headphones not if youre not. my bad. i was looking for a fight though but the dealer wasnt. i just wanted to play with my ipod like everyone else sir. sorry for fighting and being a dooshbag my bad again.

See. The "problem" is you're looking for a technicality. So, yes, that means you're looking for a fight. I can't believe you'd be any more agreeable at a table when the rules are being negotiated at will by the players. Why do people feel this overwhelming need to check their stinking E-mail while sitting at the Poker Table?

jasonb 03-01-2009 04:45 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanhands36 (Post 9079093)
I also have a IPhone, I play in Vegas where I live and in Phx AZ where I work. For the most part communication devices are not aloud. The idea is not the rudeness but the ability to give information to other players which would be cheating. I am not saying you were cheating I am saying talking, texting and emailing could be used to tell your brother in law what cards you have. That is why they are not aloud. The Floor was just defusing the situation and the dealer was not making up his own rules. When I use the IPod part of my phone I have been asked if I was using the phone features by a floor and showed that I wasn't without any problems and we all move on to the next hand.
Just my thoughts.

NO SIR THATS NOT THE CASE. The td came over and said fla out that it is ok to use your phone to do whatever except to talk on.
i think texting shouldnt be alowed either thats probably a good way to cheat by telling buddy at other end of table your cards guys cards next to yuo etc.
i was only clarifying the rules simply because i wanted to follow them strictly which is impossibe without knowing what they are and if the dealer doesnt know he should make it his business to find out all rules before stepping into the box sir
ty,
jason j balter:D

Pot Odds RAC 03-01-2009 04:45 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonb (Post 9079183)
and why do they have wifi in pokerroom if youre not allowed to check email???
silly question prolly:confused:

Maybe for the convenience of players waiting for a seat, or hanging out in the food areas, or generally to use when you're not seated at the stinking tables!!!

jasonb 03-01-2009 04:47 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC (Post 9079233)
See. The "problem" is you're looking for a technicality. So, yes, that means you're looking for a fight. I can't believe you'd be any more agreeable at a table when the rules are being negotiated at will by the players. Why do people feel this overwhelming need to check their stinking E-mail while sitting at the Poker Table?

btw td specifically said that texting was allowed:confused:

Pot Odds RAC 03-01-2009 04:48 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanhands36 (Post 9079129)
See and I was going to leave his spelling out of it cause he is an East Coaster.

Sorry, I couldn't resist!

:)

jasonb 03-01-2009 04:48 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC (Post 9079315)
Maybe for the convenience of players waiting for a seat, or hanging out in the food areas, or generally to use when you're not seated at the stinking tables!!!

strange cause they dont have it in other parts of casino floor

Tanhands36 03-01-2009 04:48 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonb (Post 9079308)
NO SIR THATS NOT THE CASE. The td came over and said fla out that it is ok to use your phone to do whatever except to talk on.
i think texting shouldnt be alowed either thats probably a good way to cheat by telling buddy at other end of table your cards guys cards next to yuo etc.
i was only clarifying the rules simply because i wanted to follow them strictly which is impossibe without knowing what they are and if the dealer doesnt know he should make it his business to find out all rules before stepping into the box sir
ty,
jason j balter:D

So your telling me that you couldn't use your IPhone to email me at the other end of the table on My IPhone?

jasonb 03-01-2009 04:50 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanhands36 (Post 9079376)
So your telling me that you couldn't use your IPhone to email me at the other end of the table on My IPhone?

this is all bs cause nobodys fkng cheating with cell phones. its just rude period
is reading a book ok cause thats rude as **** too
:D

Pot Odds RAC 03-01-2009 04:59 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonb (Post 9079408)
this is all bs cause nobodys fkng cheating with cell phones. its just rude period
is reading a book ok cause thats rude as **** too
:D

So because someone reads a book, it should be OK for you to be rude in your own way?

Seriously, judging by your belligerence in this thread I stand by my initial read. You come here and ask for opinions. When you get some that go against your position you get confrontational and defensive. I'm guessing you were in a similar mode when just trying to "clarify" the technicalities of the electronic device rules.

pfapfap 03-01-2009 05:03 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonb (Post 9079408)
this is all bs cause nobodys fkng cheating with cell phones. its just rude period
is reading a book ok cause thats rude as **** too
:D

No, sir, reading a book is generally not okay either.

The problem isn't that the dealer was picking on you, the problem is that not all dealers and floor are on the same page regarding rules or the reasoning behind them.

I agree with those suggesting you're looking for a fight, sir.

Technically you weren't playing with your iPod. The iPod is a music player. It's an application within the iPhone. You were checking email.

Why are you looking for excuses to be a douchebag, sir? Why can't you be nice and play along? We're all in this together. The world is not out to get you, sir.

Tanhands36 03-01-2009 05:12 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
We can bring another point into this and that is that if you come west good luck getting your IPhone or IPod Touch in the door. They have gotten sorta touchy about them lately. Best bet is to just go along and not cause problems. How many hands did not get played while this argument was going on? Was the dealer unhappy with you at this point? What about the other players spesificlly the ones who voiced an opinion that you could not use your Phone at the table.
If a guy wants to read a book and not pay attention to what he is doing that is his problem. If you are emailing or listening to your IPod then you may miss a play at the table and delay the game.

jasonb 03-01-2009 05:26 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pfapfap (Post 9079635)
No, sir, reading a book is generally not okay either.

The problem isn't that the dealer was picking on you, the problem is that not all dealers and floor are on the same page regarding rules or the reasoning behind them.

I agree with those suggesting you're looking for a fight, sir.

Technically you weren't playing with your iPod. The iPod is a music player. It's an application within the iPhone. You were checking email.

Why are you looking for excuses to be a douchebag, sir? Why can't you be nice and play along? We're all in this together. The world is not out to get you, sir.

ok youre right im a dick. nobody should do any of this stuff at the table.( even if it is within the rules) so i wont do it anymore
ty everyone
btw my wife agrees that im a dick and an ahole so youre right on that too sir. GG GH :laugh: TY

jasonb 03-01-2009 05:28 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonb (Post 9080123)
ok youre right im a dick. nobody should do any of this stuff at the table.( even if it is within the rules) so i wont do it anymore
ty everyone
btw my wife agrees that im a dick and an ahole so youre right on that too sir. GG GH :laugh: TY

i think i had my PERIOD that day

finbop6631 03-01-2009 05:31 PM

Re: Cell phones at table
 
I think you were looking for a fight.

I use an ipod touch, which at Borgata is cool because their hotel wifi reaches the poker room and most of the casino. I'll only touch it once I've folded a hand, for music or internet reasons.

IFSATG 11-28-2010 07:34 PM

Re: PARX Poker Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mixn123 (Post 23145866)
Another idea and probably very big longshot would be to make user 110v outlets available under each table.

Had a long session yesterday and left when my mobile phone/music player died. Would have stayed much longer. Would have loved to plug in my power adapter to charge my phone. I know I could possibly have left it plugged in behind one of the counters, but I wouldn't be very comfortable with that.

I don't see how it isn't feasible to do since they already run AC to the auto shufflers, but i don't know if there would be another issue doing so.

Why is it that we are getting to the point where we cannot go anywhere, do anything or feel completely vulnerable without our beloved <insert some electronic communication/entertainment device here>?

Really? You had to leave because you couldn't listen to music and/or text and/or call and/or facebook and/or tweet????

What's next multi-tabling on laptops, while playing live?

No disrespect, but come on.

IFSATG 11-28-2010 08:05 PM

Re: PARX Poker Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent87 (Post 23156634)
...but there should be a rule that if you are on the cell phone, you will not get dealt in. Bellagio does this successfully, so I'm sure Parx can do it. Too many people are talking away and not paying attention, which slows up the game. Not to mention it's annoying to hear half a conversion...

This is perhaps the thing that bothers me the most in a poker room.

Phone in hand should = no hand dealt to you.

It's not just the phone calls (which are the most rude), it's the texting and browsing.

I was at the B this summer and they 86'd a player after repeated attempts to remind them that "no communication device use is permitted while sitting at the table". Sad part was, he was the donator in the game. Worth it, though.

Best rule ever.

You wanna talk/text/browse. No problem. Get the **** up and move away from the table.

/rant

mixn123 11-28-2010 08:48 PM

Re: PARX Poker Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IFSATG (Post 23156075)
Why is it that we are getting to the point where we cannot go anywhere, do anything or feel completely vulnerable without our beloved <insert some electronic communication/entertainment device here>?

Really? You had to leave because you couldn't listen to music and/or text and/or call and/or facebook and/or tweet????

What's next multi-tabling on laptops, while playing live?

No disrespect, but come on.

Yeah, it may have been sounding a bit bitchy, but after a 9 hour session in the same chair, it would have been nice to listen to some more tunes as opposed to hearing the guy next to me calling out every single board card as it hit.

Yet look around, pretty much 2/10 at a table are nearly guaranteed to fiddling with their devices at any one time but I don't think we'll ever ultimately meet your delusions of grandeur.


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