What is your understanding of a raise (1/2 N/L cash Game) when less than full amount. example:
Bet is a $100, I put in $185 with an intent to raise and floor says I didnt put full raise amount in, so its just a call. During tournaments TDA rules have the 50% or more rule.

It may be room specific, but where I play if you put in 150% or more of the original bet, its a raise. Having said that, I have no idea why people dont just announce their intentions and avoids all the confusion.

Or make sure you're putting in $200 in this particular room. Did you just grab two handfuls and move them forward?

This could be room specific. Where I work a 50% raise such as described in the OP is going to be obligated to complete and make it a minimum raise. Less than 50% will be held to just a call.

This is the room in my rule too, but it's not universal just like the majority of poker rooms.

In some rooms, this is the rule. Apparently in the room in question, that is the rule and you must adjust.

Same with mine. They usually round up or down I.e. $149 is call $151 is raise to $200) in my experience but everywhere is different.


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depends on the house rule.

Just verbalize what you want to do. If you are not sure if it a permissible amount, ask the dealer ("can I raise to $185?"). And don't worry, your opponents aren't going to pick up a bunch of tells from the way you say the words.

99.99 percent of all problems with betting would be solved if players wouldn't try to take actions with their chips without first verbalizing.

+1

House rule .. but typically ..

For cash games:

1) If the player puts out (or announces) more than 50% of a legal raise AND they have enough chips behind to complete a min raise, then a min raise is 'forced' on that player and they must complete or fold with the chips forfeited that are already put out.

2) If a player is all-in for ANY amount less than a min raise, then it's not considered a raise when action returns to the original bettor or any subsequent caller of that bet. (For Limit cash play .. This IS a raise if the amount is above 50% of a raise.)

For Tournaments any chips (or announcement) below a full min raise IS NOT a raise and becomes a call only. Rule 2 from above applies the same as above.

1/2 CASH: PF Raise to $6, call ... player puts out $9 with chips behind. This becomes $10 and opens up all actions to all players.

1/2 CASH: PF Raise to $6, call ... Player is all-in for $9. This IS NOT a raise and action is not reopened to the $6 raiser or caller.

100/200 Tournament: PF Raise to 600, call ... player puts out 900. This becomes a call of 600.

What's tough about these spots is that they look like they are being enforced differently and the dealer shouldn't make things 'clear' to the table unless asked by the player who is currently facing action. It also stirs the pot that Limit poker has it's own twist in there as well. GL

TDA Rule 43: Raise Amounts

A raise must be at least equal to the largest prior bet or raise of the current betting round. If a player raises 50% or more of the largest prior
bet but less than a minimum raise, he must make a full minimum raise.

Well .. the 'house' that I play in the most must be doing this differently. It's good to see that cash and tournament are meant to be the same in this regard. GL

Yes, they must be.

I feel like we've had this discussion before

I would think in most rooms, your action is a call unless you make a verbal announcement of a raise before or during your motion of chips.

No. In most rooms it is a raise, and you are forced to add chips to make it a full legal raise, for both cash and tournaments. The TDA rule is listed just a few posts above. The cash game rule is similar.

Agreed. It is a raise in all Las Vegas Caesar's properties; rule 176.