The game is built around one player, player 3

On the flop player 1 bets 35, player 2 raise allin for 95. Player 3 misses the all-in even though the dealer did announce it and puts 35 in.

I think should have option to just call the 35 as not only is it gross misunderstanding, but they are the star and don't want to annoy them more!

Player 3 is forced to call the 95 and is drawing dead.

No, it's standard, he has to pay the whole thing. Pay attention.

Room rules vary, as does enforcement from dealers and floors.

I'm in favor of players getting to 'fix' mistakes, assuming no harm to others. If nobody else has acted after the 'short call', let player 3 have all their options (fold and take back the 35, call the 95, or raise). Other than a short delay to get it sorted, nobody is significantly harmed.

Could player 1 deduce something because of a willingness to call the 35, but not 95? Maybe, but not enough harm to player 2, for me to insist someone who doesn't want to call 95, put in 95.

ie, rules don't apply to whales.

"game is built around" and "whale" can't be used in the same story as "raise all in for 95".

Unless you mean 95K.

There are 3 possible rulings here:
- player 3 can take back the 35 and fold
- player 3 can leave the 35 but fold
- player 3 must call the 95

In my experience the first is most common - specially in low stakes games - and the last is the least common. If I'm a floor and room rules don't specify I'm going with first unless the guy has done it a couple times or is a known angle shooter and then i'm going with the second.

Player is required to call an all in for an amount he didn't understand is a pretty awful rule.

If you are a bunch of guppies, a trout looks like a whale.

Room dependent, as others have said, but you are correct this is one of the canonical forms of gross misunderstanding.

My preference is that players be allowed to take back the 35 and have all options available, as long as no one has acted behind.

I have not played in a room where the player would be forced to call the full amount. Depending on the room it is either a gross misunderstanding and he can take it back and have all options or anything that goes in pot stays and he has option of folding and leaving the $35 in pot or calling full raise.

Room dependant.

$35 stays no matter what locally.

I'm not really crazy about allowing the player to raise here since he's essentially verbalized a call.

By "essentially verbalized" you mean he has in no way shape or form done anything verbal?

s/verbalized/indicated/

Analogous to the single chip call. By putting out 35 V is either indicating that he's planning to call the 95 or that he misunderstands the size of the bet he's facing. There's no way V can put out 35 and go back and grab 200 more and have it stand.

I think we can also reasonably interpret his putting out $35 as an indication that if facing a $35 bet he intends to call but giving us no indication of what he wants to do about a $95 bet.

There are 2 likely scenarios here.

1) most likely the player not only missed the raise but thinks the action his heads up. On finding it's not heads up he may want to try to get heads up or take it down immediately or fold or simply call ... all are reasonable options.

2) the player knows it's 3 way but just missed the raise. Though wanting to raise here seems less likely I can't discount the possibility that seeing the $95 bet now can't entice a player to want to try to take it down now.

$35>$95 doesn't seem to rise to "gross misunderstanding" to me.

Also "Player 3 is forced to call the 95 and is drawing dead" is irrelevant and somewhat unlikely.

Forget gross misunderstanding. There is the traditional call after a raise rule that should be applied (the modern trend is that the $35 would have to stay or the player could complete the call... but I think the traditional rule is better)

100% room dependent. In my room, the $35 stays and the player may call or fold for the remaining amount. He can't raise.

gross misunderstanding concerning the size of the call, player is allowed to take back his 35 and re-evaluate

Like everyone said, normally player is required to leave the 35 and can call the full bet or fold

In friendly games player 1 and 2 let him take it back and no one cares

He will often call the 95 anyway after they let him take it back with terrible hand

Your ruling is far from room dependent. Yes it is room dependent and very possibly dependent on the age of the room or its rules.

The 35 stays period part is wrong. Some places yes, many places no. Historically, it would be treated similar to oot action and p3 allowed to correct his error with all options so long as there was no action induced behind him. Now some/many places might not allow a raise. But the 35 stays and we proceed from there is generally a more modern rule.

I prefer the older rule with no option to raise. But whichever or whatever it is truly all local it hour the 35 stays qualifier

What? Stop posting drunk, man.

He said "locally", meaning in his local room the rule is that the 35 stays. Period. Nowhere did he mention that the 35 stays everywhere.

In my room, he would be allowed to take back the 35 and fold OR call the 95. That's it. This only works if no one has acted after him, otherwise the 35 must stay and he can call the rest or fold.

Yes yes yes ..

Not standard ... The murky part here would be if he had verbalized 'call' while putting out the chips. Most of the time he is still off the hook.

This would be the tournament scenario way more often than in a cash setting. GL

Most rooms that enforce the betting line would make the $35 stay, and his decision is he can call the rest to $95 or fold, as many have said it depends on the room.