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05-02-2011 , 09:10 AM
When someone calls by throwing in chips one or a few at a time, I will call it a string call. Also, if someone folds and accidentally only flicks me one card, I call it a string fold. I usually get a few smiles and a chuckle or two from them.

Last week I heard someone who tipped me twice call it a String Tip. I plan on incorporating that into the schtick soon!
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05-02-2011 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadstriker
Well it took 5 years in the industry, but today I finally received word that I'm being bumped up to full-time.

That's right, a full-time dealing job. No having to take a dual rate gig. No suits and ties. Just dealing. Five days a week. Oh. My. God. Health Insurance! Dental!


FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH
Congrats too.

e get offered fulltime after 5 years but it's optional.

I took it and love the change.

I still dual rate on rare occassions.
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05-02-2011 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadstriker
Well it took 5 years in the industry, but today I finally received word that I'm being bumped up to full-time.

That's right, a full-time dealing job. No having to take a dual rate gig. No suits and ties. Just dealing. Five days a week. Oh. My. God. Health Insurance! Dental!

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH
Congrats and well deserved.
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05-02-2011 , 02:24 PM
What is dual rate>? No Cal dealer in the house working part time and content. Do yall have to deal every game the house spreads? Where I am we deal it all baccarat, BJ, Pai Gow tree card and the holdems.

How do you feel about playing at your room? Personally leaning towards not doing it.

Last edited by peten2toms; 05-02-2011 at 02:25 PM. Reason: One more question?
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05-02-2011 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by peten2toms
What is dual rate>? No Cal dealer in the house working part time and content. Do yall have to deal every game the house spreads? Where I am we deal it all baccarat, BJ, Pai Gow tree card and the holdems.

How do you feel about playing at your room? Personally leaning towards not doing it.
At WinStar, we are poker dealer's only. Table games is a seperate department and they deal all the other games.

Poker dealers keep their own tips. Table games pools theirs.

Dual Rate is a dealer who acts as a floor as needed. They are paid an hourly rate similar to what a floor earns when they are acting as a floor and they are paid their regular hourly rate when they are dealing.
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05-02-2011 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by peten2toms
How do you feel about playing at your room? Personally leaning towards not doing it.
When I worked in a room where dealers were allowed to play, I did not play. I think the bad outweighs the good.

We deal to irrational people every day and I don't want to give them a reason to not like me, even if that reason is completely stupid. There have been threads on this forum from people which basically said, "Dealer played in my game, beat me, so now I won't tip him."

There are many illogical people who play poker. Don't give them a reason, even if it's an ill-conceived reason.
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05-02-2011 , 05:35 PM
Here's my gem from yesterday.....
I'm dealing a 1/2 game at 3 in the morning. A nearby 3-6 game just breaks and one of the players (semi-regular) sits down at my game. He has over 200 and I explain to him that the max is 200 and he'll need to put some red in his pocket. He wins the first few hands and then this hand comes up. Small raise pre flop, flop comes 465, bet/call. Turn is an 8 other player bets 60, 3/6 guy calls. River is an 8, bet 60, this is where it gets funny. 3/6 guy starts fumbling with his chips, I instantly recognize that his intention is to raise, but he can't get the physical mechanics of raising right because he's got fifty in white. So i say, "if you'd like to raise just say a numerical amount." He goes "raise forty more." I explain you have to double the bet so it would be a minraise to 120. He then goes "okay I'll just call". I say "no it has to be a raise to 120 now." The other player calls and the 3/6 player has fives full, where the other player obviously had the straight. The other player then gives me the cold shoulder saying "how much coaching can the dealer give one guy?" I just explained that I was doing my job.
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05-02-2011 , 06:16 PM
I play where I work, but the minute anyone grumbles about, I rack up and quit.

Last time this happened, it wasn't even where I worked, it was at a different property owned by the same company. It was late, the game was 5-handed. I raise on the button preflop, and the BB grunts, "Don't chase away the customers!" I end up heads-up against the SB, and she's agast that I would bet into her. As the dealer pushed me the pot, I said, "Deal me out," and the game broke.

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Originally Posted by Jeffawesome
So i say, "if you'd like to raise just say a numerical amount."
I would recommend giving the player the "HALT!" sign with your hand, like a traffic cop. Once he stopped fumbling, I would ask, "What are you trying to do?"

This way, you get the clarification you seek, the limit player doesn't screw himself, and you don't get accused of suggesting that he raise.
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05-03-2011 , 03:47 AM
Just a rant.

This was a first for me. I don't know why but it bugged me a little.

I had a guy (white, middle age man and yes it's relevant) come up to the podium to cash out after leaving a mostly Asian table. He splashes his chips ($86) all over the counter so I have to actually block a few from flying off and heaves a big sigh. Here's how the conversation went:

Me: All done for the night?
Him: This is bull****!
Me: What's... (he cuts me off)
Him: The collusion...all of these ****ing Asians! (yes, he exclaimed it for all to hear)
Me: Whao. Easy man... (he cuts me off)
Him: Don't tell me "easy".
Me: Please don't yell curses or racial comments sir.
Him: This is bull****! The collusion with the Asians. What are you gonna do about it!
Me: I can watch the game and see what's going on.... (he cuts me off)
Him: Too late man.
Me: If you see something funny you should tell me right away so I can.... (he cuts me off)
Him: You're in on it!
Me: (I count out his cash then say) Really man, if you have....
Him: I think you're in on it!
He walked off talking to himself.

Seriously? That's it, that's how I supplement my income. I get an envelope in the parking lot at the end of the night from the "****ing Asians" colluding in the 1/2 100 SL game for turning a blind eye to their collusion. Sheesh. And BTW, I WAS watching the game. Just the usual ramming, jamming 1/2 game.

BTW, my wife is Asian. So I find this even more amusing. When a player makes some anti-Asian remark, I like to turn my gaming badge around to reveal a pic of me and my woman on the back. Some of the reactions I get are priceless. This guy didn't give me the chance.
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05-03-2011 , 04:03 AM
Congrats, Quads!

peten, I recommend not crapping where you eat. And by "where" I mean your entire regional market. If you deal, just don't play. Heck, if you intend to deal at some point in the future, don't play.

I deal casinos. I play home games. There are some juicy higher stakes home games, so it works out okay.
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05-03-2011 , 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by juanez
BTW, my wife is Asian. So I find this even more amusing. When a player makes some anti-Asian remark, I like to turn my gaming badge around to reveal a pic of me and my woman on the back. Some of the reactions I get are priceless. This guy didn't give me the chance.
I knew a white lady with a black husband who used to do something very similar when a black patron would accuse her of racism.

There are some people out there that are just such miserable clods I can't imagine how they live life from day to day. I'm sure you probably were laughing on the inside after dealing with that guy.
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05-03-2011 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by pfapfap
Congrats, Quads!

peten, I recommend not crapping where you eat. And by "where" I mean your entire regional market. If you deal, just don't play. Heck, if you intend to deal at some point in the future, don't play.

I deal casinos. I play home games. There are some juicy higher stakes home games, so it works out okay.
There is a flip side to this. There is also a subset of players that like it when a dealer plays with them and will toke them better when they are in the box because "he's one of us." A lot of it depends on what games you are thinking of playing; generally as you move up in stakes the positives of playing outweigh the negatives.
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05-03-2011 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
There is a flip side to this. There is also a subset of players that like it when a dealer plays with them and will toke them better when they are in the box because "he's one of us." A lot of it depends on what games you are thinking of playing; generally as you move up in stakes the positives of playing outweigh the negatives.
I had to really learn to watch what I say when I'm at a neighboring casino, but I do agree it works out to better tokes from people I play with.
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05-03-2011 , 05:48 PM
I'm so happy this thread came back to life.

At the Start of Day Three of the WPT event I just dealt, Mike Sexton was at my table. I don't watch tv poker, so I didn't recognize any of the alleged "stars" in this tourney, but I've been a Mike Sexton fan since I started playing this game in 1993.

At the start of the day of such a big event, the dealer is supposed to check the ID of each player who sits down, and compare it to the list of players for that table. When Sexton arrived juggling a coffee and a breakfast sandwich, I told him not to worry about digging out the ID.

"I'll be happy to show it to you," he said (of course he did! What else would Mike Sexton say in such a spot! That's why I've always loved the guy, he's the quintessential gentleman of poker).

"That voice is enough for me," I assured him.
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05-03-2011 , 07:09 PM
Something related happened a few years ago at our big annual tourney. The event was in a large venue with temporary but full size tables set up. The table number was sitting on each table in a small plastic placard.

3 regulars who I know by name sat down within a couple of minutes of each other for the first day. I was chatting with them in the 15 minutes or so before cards went in the air. When I had 5 players at the table, I asked them all for their receipts and ID's.

"What, you think we can't tell what table we're at or do you think we're trying to play for free?" He was kidding of course but all three of the regulars agreed with him.

I insisted that they show me since I was getting them from the strangers as well. All of the regulars at the wrong table
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05-04-2011 , 09:57 AM
You guys shouldn't have given me this outlet!

We run a promotion where if you lose with pocket aces, you win $100. The players have code words to let the rest of the table know they have aces, so the rest of the table will check it down and try to crack them. This really happened.

Lady: Hey, is aces cracked still going? (code for "I have aces, try to snap them)

Couple players call the limp, and the small blind raises to $16 (it's a $1-$2 NL game). She immediately mucks her aces face up, out of position, because she was pissed that someone at the table didn't go along with what she was doing. He told her he had QQ and didn't hear her announce she had aces. She yells at him, "I don't want your money, I want the casinos money!"

My thought was "All promotion money is YOUR money, not the casinos"...lol


I'm dealing the $1-$2 NL game one night, and this older guy is in a hand with this young kid, who was obviously new to live poker. On the river of a Q high board, the man checks, and the kid moves all in. The man starts to think, and turns over one of his cards, which was a Q, and stares at the kid for a read. The kid then turns over a Q. As the man is thinking, the kid just turns his other card over, revealing a very small kicker. The man says, "Oh, I can beat that, I call." and takes all of the kid's chips. I try to avoid laughing in the box, but I really couldn't help myself there.


One of our dealers was dealing a very slow $3/$6 limit HE game, where all of the players are super tight. I guess they chopped like 6 hands in a row, so the dealer just cut the deck, kicked up his feet on seat 1, and started watching TV. The players got pissed and yelled for the floorman. The floorman comes over, and asks what the problem is. They say that the dealer just stopped dealing and is watching TV. The floorman asks the dealer what's going on, and he says they just chopped 6 hands in a row, so if they're not going to play, why deal? The floorman tells the players to gamble up or he's shutting the game down and the game proceeded.


Last story for now. We run another promotion that if you make a full house, playing both of your cards in HE, you win an envelope with a random amount of money in it. This player had pocket deuces, on a board of KKK55. The dealer tried to explain that he played the board and his hand didn't qualify for an envelope, and the guy threw a fit. He called the floorman, who literally had to draw a diagram to show him why his deuces didn't play. He told the dealer and floorman that he wouldn't tip another dealer until his envelope was honored, and he was satisfied. The floorman finally said, "I don't know what else to tell you. Do what you have to do." The guy left angry, and like most gamblers, he was right back in our room soon after like nothing happened.
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05-04-2011 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by absolutkall
One of our dealers was dealing a very slow $3/$6 limit HE game, where all of the players are super tight. I guess they chopped like 6 hands in a row, so the dealer just cut the deck, kicked up his feet on seat 1, and started watching TV. The players got pissed and yelled for the floorman. The floorman comes over, and asks what the problem is. They say that the dealer just stopped dealing and is watching TV. The floorman asks the dealer what's going on, and he says they just chopped 6 hands in a row, so if they're not going to play, why deal? The floorman tells the players to gamble up or he's shutting the game down and the game proceeded.
I really hope this dealer got fired.
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05-04-2011 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by absolutkall

One of our dealers was dealing a very slow $3/$6 limit HE game, where all of the players are super tight. I guess they chopped like 6 hands in a row, so the dealer just cut the deck, kicked up his feet on seat 1, and started watching TV. The players got pissed and yelled for the floorman. The floorman comes over, and asks what the problem is. They say that the dealer just stopped dealing and is watching TV. The floorman asks the dealer what's going on, and he says they just chopped 6 hands in a row, so if they're not going to play, why deal? The floorman tells the players to gamble up or he's shutting the game down and the game proceeded.
Wow, I would be upset at the dealer if I was a)the casino and b)the players.

You are actually telling the players who pay their money how they are allowed to play?
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05-04-2011 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Didace
I really hope this dealer got fired.
+1

What a douche.
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05-04-2011 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
I really hope this dealer got fired.
also the floor please
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05-04-2011 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by absolutkall
<SNIP>

One of our dealers was dealing a very slow $3/$6 limit HE game, where all of the players are super tight. I guess they chopped like 6 hands in a row, so the dealer just cut the deck, kicked up his feet on seat 1, and started watching TV. The players got pissed and yelled for the floorman. The floorman comes over, and asks what the problem is. They say that the dealer just stopped dealing and is watching TV. The floorman asks the dealer what's going on, and he says they just chopped 6 hands in a row, so if they're not going to play, why deal? The floorman tells the players to gamble up or he's shutting the game down and the game proceeded.
"Gamble it up"? Sounds like a pit boss, not a poker floor.

I get the impression that absolutkall thinks this was funny.

It's not, it's an appalling example of bad customer service.

Both the dealer and the floor were 100% wrong.

I would never mention such an incident in a room I dealt in. I would be ashamed to be associated with the dealer and the floor.

I sincerely hope at least one player filed a formal complaint about both employees.
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05-04-2011 , 02:25 PM
Wow, if I'm dealing a game with six straight blind chops, I'm having fun with it.

At the very least, I'm calling the floor over, and asking him if we're close to the record.
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05-05-2011 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by absolutkall
You guys shouldn't have given me this outlet!

I'm dealing the $1-$2 NL game one night, and this older guy is in a hand with this young kid, who was obviously new to live poker. On the river of a Q high board, the man checks, and the kid moves all in. The man starts to think, and turns over one of his cards, which was a Q, and stares at the kid for a read. The kid then turns over a Q. As the man is thinking, the kid just turns his other card over, revealing a very small kicker. The man says, "Oh, I can beat that, I call." and takes all of the kid's chips. I try to avoid laughing in the box, but I really couldn't help myself there.


One of our dealers was dealing a very slow $3/$6 limit HE game, where all of the players are super tight. I guess they chopped like 6 hands in a row, so the dealer just cut the deck, kicked up his feet on seat 1, and started watching TV. The players got pissed and yelled for the floorman. The floorman comes over, and asks what the problem is. They say that the dealer just stopped dealing and is watching TV. The floorman asks the dealer what's going on, and he says they just chopped 6 hands in a row, so if they're not going to play, why deal? The floorman tells the players to gamble up or he's shutting the game down and the game proceeded.

The emphasis obviously is mine, but based on your behavior, the other dealer's behavior, and the floor, it would be the last time I played at that casino.
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05-05-2011 , 08:16 PM
Incredible story there....I would love to see them try that at my place. The dealer would get an automatic 30 day suspension and the floorman would probably get a week off.
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05-05-2011 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by simonphoenix
Incredible story there....I would love to see them try that at my place. The dealer would get an automatic 30 day suspension and the floorman would probably get a week off.
While the situation he describes doesn't warrant the really poor customer service, I have seen a floor come to a table and say "start playing or leave" and it was fully justified. The entire table had agreed to only play to hit the BBJ. If you didn't have pair in your hand, or suited connectors, you were to fold preflop, if you had these, you were to limp in and not bet until the river, and then only bet if you had a qualifying hand. Hand after hand after hand was dealt where the house raked $0 and the dealer was toked $0. Floor was a good sport for a while, but ultimately put the kibosh on it.

And even if it wasn't that people were colluding--if it was just the morning coffee club there to get free drinks and fold every hand while they chatted--I see no reason a casino needs to pander to such customers. If the game isn't making enough money to pay the dealer and pay for the beverages, it's definitely a candidate to be forcibly shut down. Management needs to factor in the customer service damage it'll do and decide if they want to drive those customers away, but if those players are there solely to take advantage of the beverage service and jackpots while stiffing the house and the dealers, feel free to nuke the game.
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