if you are willing to go the lawyer route which is fine it may be best to let the casino know and give them a quick chance to pay you off before it goes that far. they may do that as the lawyer costs for them will add up. otherwise then you must go with the attorney.

remember if you sue a company you will be barred for life from them and all their subsidiaries, and may have already been.

Ask for the money in comps to help them wash it down perhaps.

I hope that's true that they would ban me, because I would have a hell of another discrimination law suit against them.. I may end up not ever having to play poker again!

That's not how discrimination laws work.

They always reserve the right to ban anyone for any reason. You qualify under those terms.

I meant discrimination in a broad term as to encompass "retaliation".. and yes that's exactly how "retaliation" works..

I highly doubt a casino could "legally" ban anyone who sued them and won due to casino being legally at fault for an incident.

Do you actually understand what you are implying?

Basically, you are saying that any private/public Business/Entity (such as a casino, department store, sporting venue, etc) who was found legally at fault in an incident/matter could then "retaliate" by banning said person(s) specifically because they lost a case or were found guilty..... that would be one hell of a "retaliation" lawsuit...

If this was true and business/entities were allowed to ban "retaliate" against patrons for their legally determined faults then "victims" could be strong armed and blackmailed from not pursuing justice and these business could operate and do whatever they wanted without recourse.

So I guess if a patron/fan sued the NFL for over an incident and won a legal case against the NFL, then I suppose the NFL could retaliate and ban that person from any NFL associated events for life just because they lost/were found guilty in court. Not likely.

*Im sure lawdude can shed some light on this... even though this thread is veering off into crazy land...

That's correct.

How is it "blackmail" to ban someone from buying your product? You're not entitled to buy their product regardless of what they want.

Hell yes they would ban him.

When it's your property you can refuse service to anyone you like except for reasons that are protected like religion etc. In other words, you can say "No Nike shoes in this store" but you can't say "No black people in this store". Actually just refusing service without explanation will do because a lawyer can't spin the words around in any way. If you refuse you will be trespassing.

Why are you under the impression that companies are required by law to provide their services to you?

+1 Kelvis

Yes you could easily be banned. You should understand this before you pursue any legal remedies.

I'll just play at Parx and unless MGM takes over every Casino in Vegas I've got nothing to worry about.. and if Phil Ivey hasn't been banned by Borgata then I'm really not worried...

Not Blackmail from buying a product... Blackmail in threatening a person(s) with various type of retaliation (banning, denying future service, etc.) as a means to persuade person(s) from not pursuing lawsuit against guilty party.

I am no legal expert by any means, but I am sure that there are some laws/legal issues against something like this. Eventually, if a retaliation lawsuit did makes it way to a courtroom, then the Casino would eventually have to give a reason for "banning/denying service" and I don't think the casino claiming "we were found legally at fault and sued by the individual so we are banning/refusing service because of it" will fly in today's very liberal court systems. jmho

A judge would throw out your case so fast it would make your head spin.

Besides the fact that it is a legit reason to refuse service to customers that have proven to sue them. You're a customer that is going to cost them in court when they do business with you; they conclude that it is not profitable for them to continue providing service. It's like you coming in breaking all their **** and expecting not to be thrown out.

I'm a lawyer though not a lawyer with any expertise in this area. That said, usually people can choose not to do business with you for any reason except for a specifically prohibited reason. For instance, it's prohibited to discriminate based on race, gender, etc., so you can't keep someone out of the casino for being black or Hispanic or white. However, you can for any other reason, including that you just don't want their action (i.e. how card-counters get booted) or you think their too litigious. For instance, landlords keep a list of tenants that have sued landlords, and it's harder for those people to find places to rent. That's not against the law.

Generally they can retaliate against you by kicking you out if you sue them. Some exceptions, like whistleblower statutes, but they're unlikely to apply here.

i play in AC, but only for last couple of months. i have to hear the seat change story. what casino, what went down. ive had people flat out say they were drug dealers. and dealers said we lost some players in harrahs to a recent heroine bust in egg harbor.

I guess I'm wrong so then I will just try to get my money back whatever it takes and then just play somewhere else not MGM property. Luckily, I play for fun, not for living so I'm really not losing anything.

yeah, I see those type of players all the time.

These are the kinds players we sit around the table with http://6abc.com/archive/6069456/

Nice pic.. and I don't know if you are trolling or purposely taking the comment out of context, but in a courtroom (regardless of being right or wrong) the business would have to give a reason as to why they are denying service. If a judge asked them "what's the reason for denying service?" do you think they are going to hold up a sign and that's it? smh

SMH indeed. What protected class are you a member of that is the basis for the discrimination and on which you can prove their discrimination rests?

They don't need a reason to deny you service. You have the burden of proof.

I of course hope you get your money back, but a discrimination lawsuit against the casino probably isn't the winning play.

C'mon Rapini.. obviously you skipped over the part where I corrected and said it was possible "retaliation"... yes.. smh indeed

and I never said I was filing a law suit.. all I said is that a Law Firm contacted me due to this thread as they obviously think something is there to pursue.

SMH. Where is it written that it is unlawful or even improper for a casino to "retaliate" by denying service?

well.. we will find out after I speak with the law firm. Obviously, something caught their attention. smh smh smh

Make sure you're meeting with their retaliation lawyer and not their discrimination lawyer.

what caught their attention is a good chance of making $$$ off of you. they DGAF whether you're going to be banned from all MGM properties or not