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Originally Posted by NickMPK
Can you explain to me what exactly the advantage is of playing with a kill?
Most of the O8 games I've played in use a kill, and always disliked it. It just seems to penalize good players, both by punishing players who play to scoop pots rather than just split, and also by just forcing all players to put more money in the middle before they look at their cards, increasing the variance of the game. My regular game is 10/20 with 1/2 kill, and I would much prefer it to just be 15/30 all the time.
I understand your thoughts on playing with a kill and I can't fault you. I think it's to each his own. I explained a little of why I like a kill in my previous post but I'll comment more.
First off, I would like to play 10/20 O8 but our poker room is too small to get this game going. We have to pull from the 4/8 game player pool to get a $5/10 and there is no way they would play a straight 10/20 game. They aren't rolled for it anyway and they'd probably get broke faster than the social security checks come in.lol Getting a $5/10 game (instead of $4/8) was like pulling teeth as it is. It tool 2 years to get most of the regs o agree to play with a kill. Their excuse...it makes the game too big. They like it now and won't play without it.
With a kill, we get the best of both worlds....those of us who would like to play a little bigger can do that when there is a kill and the other players get to play a game they are more comfortable with for most of the hands.
Also as I said, the kill pots allow players to get their feet wet at higher stakes. While we couldn't regularly get a 10/20 game going, if we get a list during the WSOP circuit event etc, a few of the reg O8 players might be comfortable enough to play.
As for punishing the good player, I disagree. I believe of punishes the bad players because they are going to be in 10x more pots than a good player, especially at a game like O8. Even if they are playing for only 1/2 the pot, they are going to end up scoping alot when they back into something with their random hands. Another thing a kill does is keep bad players in pots they might have never been in. By posting that kill, alot of bad players basically commit themselves to seeing a river. They just can't fold because they've got that kill in there.
I do agree that I don't like putting out the kill BUT if the pot I won was a kill pot, then that pot was at least double what it would have been were it a non-kill pot.
If a good player has an advantage over a bad player, his potential for dollars profited goes up as the stakes are raised. If I can play against bad players in bigger pots then I'm happy about that. Kill pots let me do that.
You said you'd prefer to play $15/30. Why doesn't a $15/30 run now vs the kill game?