Where are the best places to play limit omaha hi lo in the usa?

Borgata runs a 10-20 game thurs-sun pretty consistently

vegas has consistent 8/16 action. And 15/30 runs semi regularly at Venetian as well. Higher stakes will sometimes run at Bellagio but I've heard the regular 30/60 game there died down.

You can find 40/80 games in LA but I can't be sure how often those run.

And yea there are 10/20 games at borgata too.

If you are able to play stud8 as well that opens up more games to you as there are several OE games on the east and west coasts. There is a 60/120 HOE game at borgata right now according to bravo.



My reccomendation would be based on the stakes you want to play. if it's 4/8-8/16 vegas. (games are def softer in LA at this level but rake is pretty bad too, probably a wash and i'd prefer vegas in that case)

If you want 10/20 east coast is a good option. This is pretty random but Tulsa, OK has a regular 10/20 game as well, which becomes 20/40 1 or 2 days a week.

for 40/80 I'd definitely be playing in LA. Higher than that you pretty much need to be playing HOE, OE, TOE type mixes to be able to find games, and you are looking at mostly playing borgata or bellagio. Possibly commerce.

thank you so much for such a thorough response. as an aside, do you think it's better to play underrolled at 10/20 vs rolled at 4/8?

It's OK to take a shot, but don't play underrolled on a regular basis.

If you are on the east coast, there are other low limit options.

Delaware Park has a 4/8 Omaha game (weekends only sadly) that is super soft. However, once they get poker in MD this game may dry up because there are a lot of MD players that go to DP to play. They also spread 1/2 PLO.

Parx has a regular 6/12 OE game that runs every day with usually two tables, sometimes three. These are always must move games so you can't table select. It's $4/half hour instead of a rake so that makes up for it a bit. Weekends there is usually a 10/20 OE with occasional higher limits. Lately I have seen lists for 8/16 O8 but don't know if it ever goes off. The 6/12 OE game is apparently a 'sacred cow' at Parx so they avoid anything that might conflict. PLO runs as well - IIRC it's 5/0 or 5/5.

Sands in Bethlehem PA has the occasional 5/10 O8 game on weekends. I don't know about PLO here.

The Bravo site/app will give you lists of other games/places.

Foxwoods has a 5/10 Omaha HL game which runs almost every day.

Harrahs AC has 10-20 oe game semi-regular, half kill. But when it gets short handed, the players will move to only omaha8. Del park does have a good 4-8 game and I usually go in with a couple of stacks of 2$, come away with a couple of racks.

OE gets off at 15/30 as well, but not as frequently

From limited experience 4/8 or lower is old people poker and by the time you take split pot and relatively high rake into account, not all that great to play. Can those with broader experience comment?

The 6/12 half of the Parx OE game is pretty decent.

I guess it's pertinent to mention that due to the split pots and nature of the game, it's not all that profitable to play below 10/20. You can absolutely make some money in a $5/$10 game, but you're going to have a very low hourly.

This game runs every day, not semi regular

8/16 with a kill at the village club everyday in San Diego.
Nice, loose game

True of all games, of course. But with Omaha/8, it's not as big an issue as with most other games, because the variance is lower. If I were to take a shot at any game, Omaha/8 limit would be the game in terms of lower risk.

I was recently at Bellagio and asked. I was told they don't have any O/8 at all (straight game, not talking about mixed.) Perhaps there was some misunderstanding, but that's what I was told.

This, sometimes a 1/2 PLO8 also.
The 5/10 is Half kill too. Pretty sweet

STL Hollywood has had 2-3 tables of 1-2-5 PLO8 running on Thursdays for a few months now, and sometimes on the weekend. 4/8 H/L and 4/8 HK H/L games run almost always on the weekend at river city or Hollywood.

I live in Vegas and play almost exclusively now Omaha 8. The game at the Bellagio is dead. It used to be 30-60 with a 40 kill. It went 3 or 4 years steady and ended about 2 years ago.

Right now the only play is the Venetian. They spread 4-8, 8-16, 15-30 and sometimes 30-60 all with a half kill. 4-8 and 8-16 is every day starting around 11 with multiple tables. The 15-30 is sporadic and usually starts around 2 or 3. Goes about 4 days a week if no tournament in town. 30-60 does not go that often and breaks down rather fast.

Rick

Canterbury gets 6-12 with a 2/3 kill (to 10-20) with some regularity. Kill is at a $60 pot, and the rake and jackpot drop count toward the $60.

The $4/8 O8 game at the Venetian is a nice game but it really needs a kill. Playing with a kill is also a really good way to get experience playing at a larger stake and learning not to play scared with higher stakes.

At the Horseshoe in Bossier City,Louisiana we play $5/10 full kill O8. The game runs on Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Great game and a really good stakes. Small enough for the $4/8 HE players to dabble and learn but big enough some of the NL players are willing to sit in sometimes.

Can you explain to me what exactly the advantage is of playing with a kill?

Most of the O8 games I've played in use a kill, and always disliked it. It just seems to penalize good players, both by punishing players who play to scoop pots rather than just split, and also by just forcing all players to put more money in the middle before they look at their cards, increasing the variance of the game. My regular game is 10/20 with 1/2 kill, and I would much prefer it to just be 15/30 all the time.

Borgata 10/20 O8 game is filled with some of the the grumpiest old miserable ass holes I have ever met. Only to be topped by the 5/10 kill game at foxwoods.

the 10/20 OE game at harrahs AC is like disneyworld relatively. They smile sometimes and I've even made friends.


Disclaimer: I am in my 20's and probably am instantly labeled with whatever synonym east cost O8 regs use for dousche bag. I'm no pro though, just love poker and usually drink lots and am just looking for a good time but get lumped into the "thinks he's a pro grinder blah blah" way too often .

[QUOTE=stoopmonkey;39622542]Borgata 10/20 O8 game is filled with some of the the grumpiest old miserable ass holes I have ever met. Only to be topped by the 5/10 kill game at foxwoods.

+100 about your foxwood's comment - truer words never been spoken. lol

I understand your thoughts on playing with a kill and I can't fault you. I think it's to each his own. I explained a little of why I like a kill in my previous post but I'll comment more.

First off, I would like to play 10/20 O8 but our poker room is too small to get this game going. We have to pull from the 4/8 game player pool to get a $5/10 and there is no way they would play a straight 10/20 game. They aren't rolled for it anyway and they'd probably get broke faster than the social security checks come in.lol Getting a $5/10 game (instead of $4/8) was like pulling teeth as it is. It tool 2 years to get most of the regs o agree to play with a kill. Their excuse...it makes the game too big. They like it now and won't play without it.

With a kill, we get the best of both worlds....those of us who would like to play a little bigger can do that when there is a kill and the other players get to play a game they are more comfortable with for most of the hands.

Also as I said, the kill pots allow players to get their feet wet at higher stakes. While we couldn't regularly get a 10/20 game going, if we get a list during the WSOP circuit event etc, a few of the reg O8 players might be comfortable enough to play.

As for punishing the good player, I disagree. I believe of punishes the bad players because they are going to be in 10x more pots than a good player, especially at a game like O8. Even if they are playing for only 1/2 the pot, they are going to end up scoping alot when they back into something with their random hands. Another thing a kill does is keep bad players in pots they might have never been in. By posting that kill, alot of bad players basically commit themselves to seeing a river. They just can't fold because they've got that kill in there.

I do agree that I don't like putting out the kill BUT if the pot I won was a kill pot, then that pot was at least double what it would have been were it a non-kill pot.

If a good player has an advantage over a bad player, his potential for dollars profited goes up as the stakes are raised. If I can play against bad players in bigger pots then I'm happy about that. Kill pots let me do that.

You said you'd prefer to play $15/30. Why doesn't a $15/30 run now vs the kill game?

Hollywood Casino in STL runs a 1-2-5 PLO on Thursdays. As well, there is a 10/20 with a half kill which starts at noon every Saturday.

If there is an honest disagreement about what the stakes of the game should be (like half want 5/10 and half want 10/20), it seems like the most straightforward way to resolve this would be to play at somewhere in between (like pink chip or 8/16). Raising the stakes in this way seems a little deceptive to me...a new player might join the game thinking he has an appropriate amount of money for 5/10, and not realize what the effective stakes of the game are.

The exact problem of the kill for me is that it essentially negates the advantage that a decent player has by playing tighter. Because bad players are going to put money in whether they are the kill or not; it is not a disadvantage for them. But for the good player, posting this kill is forcing them to play hands they would have otherwise folded. Additionally, when more blind money is posted, playing looser becomes more correct (just like it is correct to play looser in stud games with higher antes), even for players who didn't post the kill. It makes the mistakes players routinely make in a game with fewer blinds less of a mistake.

I always thought to purpose of rules like kills and straddles was to induce additional action...to force people to gamble more. But I've never played in an O8 game that needed this. 6-handed pots on the flop are the norm whether there is a kill or not.

I'm not sure. The 10/20 1/2 kill game is the only regular O8 game in my city...all regulars have been playing for years, and I am pretty new to the game. I'm certainly not going to ask that everyone else change a game they are happy with just to suit my own preferences.