The 10 part isn't, but the 20 and 40 part is.

Aye, there's the rub. I can add, but can the guy sitting to my right?

The 30/60 game was 9 handed the last time I played it.

Good lord pope. It's already 9 handed, been that way for a while. Post about things you know.

This may very well be true, and if it is it is one of the reasons I hate poker.

Seriously, the game's exactly the same whether it's 2 chips, 3 chips, or 4 chips. In point of fact, 2 chip games are easier to play because it isn't as cumbersome to cut out big bets. But yeah, the donks don't like it because they don't get to rake in those gigantic pots full of low-denomination chips.

Early on Tuesday afternoon, the Bellagio had one 10-20, two 20-40, and two 40-80 games going.

I think it's safe to say they're off to a strong start.

You hate poker because too many people make poor decisions with their money?

Why do you like the 4/8 structure so much more? I personally prefer 2/3 blinds because I think it encourages action in poor players and punishes the nits for under-defending.

With the 2$ chips the dealer has to break one every flop. Minor but it saves time with red and white.

Is exactly why more chips are better.

Can someone explain why the 20/40 and 40/80 are better than 15/30 and 30/60.

I've always found that the 2/3 small blind leads to looser games, with players incorrectly calling too much pre-flop. So why are 20/40 and 40/80 seen as superior.

Bet for bet, pots in a 20-40 game are 33% larger than those in 15-30 games, meaning 33% more chips. The physically larger pots attract more action, by looking more worth winning.
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More the first than the second IMO. The people up front act like they're stuck in 2004 when everyone was tripping over themselves to play at the Bellagio and they could act like total dicks without repercussion.

They don't play the 20/40 with $10's?

God I hope not. Although I haven't been anywhere yet that plays 20 without $5's.

They use $5s in the 20 game.

I used to go to Vegas 4-5 times a year and was in the know. Now that I have been married for 2 years, it is down to 1 to 2 times a year, and I clearly don't know **** anymore...I am sad.

Let me put it this way. Of course it's a source of profit, long-term, that people make bad decisions. So sure, pick whatever game the donks like. But that doesn't mean that I'm in love with this sort of thing.

For example, Commerce has a rule allowing fish to ask for set-ups every hour. And as a result, they do. Every hour. We miss two hands an hour because people are idiots. (Not only that, sometimes the fish ask for the set-up and then go to the bathroom, forcing the rest of us to wait during their bathroom breaks.)

Now, do I accept Commerce's rule on the ground that it probably is +EV to allow fish to think that the deck affects their luck? Yeah, sure. But is it a pleasant experience that I have to wait for set-ups every hour because of this idiocy? I can't say that it is. Nor do I really like having to cut out 16 or 24 or 32 (in kill games) chips to bet because some donks think that big pots are purty to look at.

The 20-40 is played with red $5 chips.

It's also played nine-handed.

I find it funny how many posters in this thread referencing negatively "fish" or "donks" don't realize when playing in vegas against the regulars they are the "fish" or "donks."

This is as false as false can be. The regs in the 15-30 game sucked. And they were there every trip. Just free money.

re: donks and 2-4 chip structure. I'm not a donk (+$19/hr playing 8/16 and 15/30 last year) but even I lastly prefer cutting out chips in a 4-8 manner. It's much more fun. Is that logical, no. But that's the way it is. And that's a big part of why using 5s +1s sucks.

Last few times I've played in Bellagio's 30-60, not only did I play against local regulars, but I would always be playing against regulars from the game at my home club as well.

I wouldn't describe the typical local as a "fish" or "donk." "Weak-tight" or "nit" perhaps....

I'll e coming to Las Vegas at the end of February and am skeptical whether or not the 10/20 will gain traction or if it will go the way of the B's 8/16 or the Mirage 10/20 game.

Can anyone comment on if this game is running regularly and, if so, how many tables typically go?

Thanks

I think the 10-20 has been running everyday, usually with two games on the weekend.

This is working really well for the Bellagio.

friday night there was 3 40, 3 20's, and two 10 games going and a 100

I'm actually really surprised as it seems somehow their traffic increased. I played Stud so I don't know how the games were playing compared to the previous limits on the 2nd week

anyone have any thoughts?