I see. That is clearly annoying.

I've lent $20 here & there to a couple of regs where I play. always been paid back within a few days.....except for one guy.


I feel $20 is a decent price to pay to see what you're made of.


I also wont lend ANYONE $100. sorry, I just dont feel comfortable with that. Even though I play for hundreds, $100 still feels like a lot of money to me.

I've been playing live for like 5 years and I lent $200 to a reg that was well known, I saw him literally every single time I played for five years. Day after I lend him the money he hasn't been back in since lol. Never lend anyone in the casino any amount of money. Busting someone then them asking for any amount of money seems insane to me. Never seen it happen.

It's not that much different than giving a little money to a homeless guy because you know there is a high chance the money will be used for a poor decision.

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That's better than the guys that have $5K in front of them, day after day and can't give back a $500 loan for blah blah blah.


Except homeless guys usually have a good reason for their poor decisions.

As opposed to keeping the money for yourself and being certain it will be used for a poor decision?

It depends on the person.

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Because until I get paid back, I'm constantly worrying about not getting paid back. I worry that I'm a sucker and I've made a big mistake that cost me a buy-in. It's something that I have to keep in the back of my head because I can't count on them to remember. Too much stress for little to no upside.

Just say NO. Everyone is correct, you are being seen as an easy mark. Someone who'll say yes to any sob story. Do you ask for money when you bust out? You just go home, right?

Wow... I can't even imagine the audacity it takes to ask some random stranger for money- especially in a poker room.can you imagine what that guy is feeling...
Bbbet bbbet...must win back money NOW.need money.need to gamble RIGHT NOW!
Who has money I can have? You? No? You? No? You? How bout you?

Jesus!
Oh how I used to laugh and laugh at those old harrah's casino commercials that would come on with all the different age/color/creeds of people with the cheesy lines such as-
" you don't have to take big risks to have big fun"
of course the best was the granny...
"Gambling is more fun when I set limits"

Well- I guess some peeps really do need that toll free hotline number

Just think of the people in that guys 'real life' he's already borrowed money from and how many bridges he's burned.yikes

I see the dynamic of borrowing/lending/staking a lot in poker, both in home games and at casinos. At my local place I have gotten asked numerous times, I think I gave a dude $20 once as he caught me coming out of the high limit room (where 1/2 PLO is played). There are guys who make big sports bets and flash a lot of money around, and they get asked a lot. I swear one guy fuels half the high limit games in one place.

There are 2-3 people I will float money to, however they never have to ask. If they go bust I actually ask them to see me to buy in and I save them an ATM trip. I always get paid back, because they have the money and are recreational players who play low limits. I work in the pawn industry and have taken collateral, but to a random they are never getting my money.

Unless you know someone very well (and usually outside of poker), don't lend them money - the best thing that will happen is they pay you back. It's a negative freeroll.

I never have loaned anybody but buddies or regulars that I know could pay me back money.

But at work one time I lent a guy a C Note mistakenly feeling he wasn't a degenerate who would refuse to pay me back. I remember saying that I would have to pay a service fee and would he mind paying that for me. Right away this guy whipped out the 2 bucks for the fee and I gave him the money.

A week or two later pay day came up and he was flush and "only could afford to give me back 20 bucks". Okay I expected to be paid back in 2 months . 1 year later with him refusing to pay me back and me on the verge of possibly getting arrested for pounding his head in. I started asking around at the loading dock where he picked up daily runs as a delivery driver, he owed everybody at the loading dock that would loan money to him. I guess he must have gotten heat for being a welcher because he actually decided to throw me a twenty if he ran into me after I found out that he owed at least half a dozen guys similar money. I remember when I got the last 20 bucks plus 1 buck for a service fee from him he actually flipped out when I refused to give him back the 50 cents I "owed" him for change for the fee. Needless to say if you ever loan money to strangers don't expect any form of honesty from them or even co workers that you semi think you know.

I understand. I do not believe that you are a sucker. I believe, that you are good guy, although slightly obsessed with buy-ins. And there is another thing in which I do firmly believe, it is karma. I mean if you helped someone in need, it will come back, and when you are deeply in the ****, you will get help.

That said I would never loan anyone money to play poker. That is really not doing them any favour.

I disagree. I have loaned money many times to coworkers. And in 90% of the time I got a really good friend additionally to the money paid back. The situations were clearly completely different than in OP. I would never loan anybody money to "get back into game".

I saw a table mate give a guy $1 because he was $1 short of the minimum buy back in. I'd probably do the same.

I probably wouldn't. It just encourages others.

I assume $60 buy-in.

Loan $1 for a chance to win 60+ whatever chips he might win?

Seems pretty +EV

Wtf, just say no. If you stack a guy an he asks for a $5 chip or something then you could think about being nice, but not $25 or $100

I'm not sure that giving away $10 to every shady character just so you can avoid having to say "no" to their loan request qualifies as mensch behaviour.

Sheesh ... I didn't say DO NOT USE Discretion. I think the use of discretion goes without saying in every situation in life. And poker players should know that better than anyone since every action at the table is chuck full of situational considerations.

Where I play these people tend to run in groups. They buy each other dinner, share jackpots, hang out together away from the poker table waiting to get scans on their players card, etc.

I loaned one guy $20 once and gave one guy $5 after he followed me to the cage when I collected my JP proceeds. One other guy who says "I just like to see flops, what's wrong with that" asked me and I said no. The guy I lent $20 to always tells me he's going to pay me back. So he hasn't forgot and he hasn't asked me for more. The $5 guy carries himself like a bigshot but him asking me for a piece of my JP tells me otherwise.

This is in like 15 years of live play. That's all the asking that's been directed at me. I've borrowed $50 from a chip runner and $100 from a friend. Paid them back the next time I saw them.

Part of this may be the fact that if you saw me, you would expect me to be an asker not a haver. I'm very low key - no bling ever - I could care less what people think of me and I don't want to become a target.

Of course everyone has different experiences throughout life which mold their personality and behavior. Perception isn't reality. Reality is reality. Perception molds belief. Actions are motivated by belief.

There used to be a guy I worked with who played online like I did. He would ask me occasionally and I would transfer money to his account and he would give me cash the next day. It worked well: he got money to play with, and I got a little money out of my online account.

Then one night he called me about 1am (we had just got off work), and asked for a transfer. Np.

Didn't see him at work for a few days, then finally asked, "Anyone seen Chris lately?"

"Didn't you hear? He got fired."

Never saw him again.

I do not borrow money to gamble. I do not lend money to gamblers.


--klez

I agree with the post above - don't borrow money for poker, don't loan money for poker