If they ran the Poker Room like OP wanted it run they would soon be raking half the pot to support their big government style bureaucracy.

Do you not get what I'm saying? Ask the dude "how much are you playing" if it really concerns you. This eliminates the whole issue you had. It's more fishy in my opinion to not watch other players and gather how much they are playing or whether they are dipping into a rack or not.

I've felt the need to clarify a lot of things while sitting at the table.

I've never felt compelled to ask if the red chips on the table in a red chip game were in play.

People play out of racks in NL games sometimes. It does happen. They shouldn't, but they do.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't point this out if I knew he was coming from a different game, but this floor ruling is bad. Someone could sit down and think this guy was just packing it in for the night in a couple hands.

The only people who worry about looking like a fish, are fish.

It's very +ev if people think you're a clown. Amazed that b offered you as much as they did, to be honest. If i was floor i'd have laughed at your demand, since you never clearly say what it is that you want. Mistakes happen in a b&m room, if you cant accept that play online.

Sorry. I thought a respectful time period would be to wait until the buffet reopened. How many hours was that, anyway?

Finally something in this thread worth reading. I lol'd.

Good thing you didn't name the casino...considering only one ever spreads 20/40 LHE

1. I always want more money on the table. Would rather have 200bb over 100bb.

2. Hope you never come to Florida and try and get that offer here, they would laugh in your face. I snap-accept food comp and get max value.

I have played live poker for about 10 years and semi regular in Vegas for about 3. What your asking for is ridiculous.

I understand your position about being felt cheated. Its basically like the situation in reverse where someone went south, every one knows, and the floor doesn't enforce it.

I also get why you complained, you felt cheated, and wanted some compensation. But to say a buffet comp isn't good enough. That is ridiculous.

But in live poker, dealers, players, etc make mistakes. Have you ever been the big blind twice on accident? Has a card ever been exposed during the deal? Has a dealer ever gave you more than two cards (assuming its holdem) Has a dealer ever misdealt a hand?
Have you ever had AA and there was a misdeal? Has a player ever folded out of turn?

Its Live poker: players, dealers and in your case the floor (upper management) made a mistakes. Players don't ask for a comp if a hand gets exposed.

The best solution, don't ever play there again. There are plenty of other 1/3 games you can play. But be sure mistakes will happen.

You should like a petulant little child. If what you believe, and what's true differ, how is the casino to know that?

To start off with list everything that you believe to be true. Then I'll tell you which of the things on the list are false.

Long story short: Business are very happy if customers who are a pain-in-the-neck never return.

That's why there are 21.6 million google links for: fire your worse customers

Wow, someone puts some non-playing chips on the table and everyone is now entitled to a free buffet? I see Everyday Scam possibilities...

And OP, the correct response to the free buffet offer is snap fist-pump call.

Good thing you posted that info...considering it's only been mentioned about 15 times already in this thread.

Unless this is a dive where the value of the buffet comp might be negative due to fears of disease, take the comp and enjoy a nice meal.

op seems like a big ol' deucebag

Should rename thread "Casino barely ****s up and I got a free buffet out of it, ****ing jackpot!!!"

Attitude issues much?
You felt cheated. Feelings aren't facts. You were not deceived. You were not cheated. Nobody did anything to you. A mistake was made. A mistake you participated in.

When anybody sits in a NL game with greater than the original buy-in I always ask if they came from a broken game that was the same game I am playing.

This is just another protect your hand scenario. To the extent that you lost money, you need learn to protect yourself in the future. If you continue to live in your fantasy entitled world this will surely happen to you again.

Which they did by offering you food comps in the exact amount that you felt cheated.

Which is remarkable really. This speaks incredibly well of the B. Something I already could have told you. I have only been there one week some years ago to play LHE. I loved their Floors.
I can't even begin to understand what kind of consequences the player should have faced. Everybody screwed up. Including you OP.

Since I apparantly read a different post than many others regarding what happened and the sequence of events, here's my summary of what I think I read.

Player comes from another table and sits down with $800.


(this is where my reading seems to differ from several others)
Player plays for quite a while and then goes all in. Without being asked, player volunteers that only a fraction of what is on the table should actually be in play. He wasn't asked for a count - and nowhere does OP say he asked for one.

OP feels that he would have played differently had he know the true amount of Player's stack that was in play.

FWIW: I think OP WAY over-reacted. If he used the wording "I felt cheated" in dealing with the casino personell then he was not as polite as he has presented himself. "Cheat" implies a deliberate attempt to violate the rules.

I think it should have ended when the casino acknowleged that they had made a mistake.

I think the comp offer was generous, especially considering that the amount of money "lost" was minimal and not a factor for OP.

Question: When a player joins a table with more than the max buy-in is it normal to ask if all that is in play? Is it normal for a player to ask and/or is it normal for the dealer to ask?

Question: If you join a table is it normal to ask if any of the visible chips are not in play?

Just saying... but if his stack is going to affect your play style that significantly, why the hell aren't you finding out if its all in play.

Nailed it.

The sense of entitlement in the OP's post is amazing. Dismiss a free buffet, followed by a $50 credit and state: "I want a room comped"...lol really.

You felt you were out $50 of potential winnings. The floor offers you a free buffet and then even ups it to $50 in food & beverage comps, matching your stated loss.

First, the floor was generous in both offers because crediting potential winnings after the fact is not a standard casino policy. Second, you get exactly what you requested in damages.

But for some stupid reason, you turn down that offer and request some random new amount because you want to push your luck. What happened after that? Did you end up with anything?

I feel the OP is a whiny fool based on how he acted. He's being nitty and giving poker players a bad name.

Remember that you are just a $1/3nl player (I'm also low limit player playing mostly $1/3nl and $2/5nl) so your value to the casino is minimal. Plus you don't usually play there either so you are worthless to them. Stop making a bid deal out of something small.

What casino? The guy came from 20/40 limit to play 1/3nl and the dealers let him play out of a rack...Bellagio?

Only if they are high denominations in a smaller stakes game.

There is a difference between not being able to play out of a rack and chips in a rack not playing.

Player sits down. "Is all that stack in Play?" from anyone / someone at the table?? Yes [] No [x] OK next hand.

Do you really ask if every stack is in play?

This is bizarre to me. As a general rule if the chips/money are on the table I expect them to play.

If for some reason they don't play they shouldn't be on the table.

No, not every stack certainly. But I might if it was a lot larger than the max buy in, and maybe if in a rack. Since most stacks would be legit , It would be just a casual question, not a demand or anything. Don't see the harm in that.

Wow, just wow. People like you (OP) drive me f'ing nuts. New, nitwits, that really do not know anything about poker, act like they do, and think they are entitled to everything just because they play 1/3 NL poker.

Really? You expect compensation for something that never actually happened? What if you would have called a few of those hands if you would have known his correct stack size and then would have been coolered or just flat beat out in one of those hands and lost your entire stack? Maybe you should pay the casino $300 because their mistake may have saved you money.

GTFO of here. Snap call the original comp offer and grin like a Servicemen on leave in Thailand with a $100 bill in his pocket. Everything else is a waste of your time, the casino's time, and probably the tables time for dragging it out more than it needed to be.

BTW - I do play $100/$200 sometimes and I get a dolla fitty an hour in comps and that is it! Still waiting on my rooms, jets, limo's, island vacations, etc. LMAO.