Except that the pot didn't go to the wrong guy, aside from a technicality. Sounded like other guy is mucking his hand while showing nut low/straight draw that failed to come in.

Can't believe dealer pushes pot before hero turns over his cards and without saying "you have to show 2 cards to win".

Can't believe guy spoke up after the fact. If he's going to speak up he has to ask to see the hand before it gets mucked and as the dealer starts pushing the pot. Otherwise its an OPTAH violation IMO. Lets have that argument now. Its true I am depressed and out of sorts and spoiling for a fight. But seriously, can't a guy win with the best hand on this forum?

Yet another case where I have no idea what the world is coming to. Maybe professional athletes should stop pretending that they made the play when they know they didn't. Like Derek Jeter pantomiming getting hit by a pitch that on further review clearly never touched him.

I'm never tipping this dealer again.

I would never tip this guy. I would actually say "did I get you" and when he says no, I would just smile at him.

Everyone seems to have missed the point of the original post. He was watching ****ing golf. It's not as though he was watching Ronda Rousey fight which could end any second, or a Nascar race which could see a crash or a Danica tantrum happen at any time. He was distracted by ****ing golf. On par with getting distracted by the third inning of an Astro's game or the first three quarters of an NBA game he didn't bet on. Don't worry OP I got your message and wont make that mistake. Hey look there's a cricket match starting.

^ and those are the people who always slow down the game anyway. "It's on you buddy".. "It's on you again".. "ok whats the bet.. who raised. let me see what I got... let me look around the table with a dumb look on my face... I fold.."

I'm not saying it was good for him, I'm just saying...

Players have responsibility to speak up if a mistake is being made in the reading of tabled hands, that's not what's going on here; what we have here is a player who was pushed the pot and therefore quite reasonably assumed the win. Was he pushed the pot in error? Absolutely, but it's not the same thing as if villain shows 6 high and hero mucks in response to that.

Here's how this series of events should have gone:
Villain shows 6 high.
Dealer announces "six high" and pushes up the corresponding board cards.
Hero will always either show in response to this and win, or he will muck and villain will win.

When dealer doesn't do this, his response should be "FLOOR" and not make another move.

I fault dealer so much more than OP here, being pushed the pot is a reasonably safe time to discard your hand and I don't consider this "not protecting his hand." As the floor, if those cards are identifiable I am flipping them pushing hero the pot.

I agree with you that the dealer screwed up and that his actions precipitated the OPs error. But ultimately here's what happened

Villain tables his hand.
Dealer mistakenly assumes OP wins, since villain has nothing and starts to push pot to OP
OP due to watching golf, doesnt realize villain tabled hand, and mucks cards.
Villain wins as he was only player to table hand.

There is no casino I have played in that allows someone to win a pot when the villain tables his hand and you muck. Dealer screwed up, but so did OP. He should have known villain tabled his hand, and should have realized he needed to show.

As far as OMC speaking up, he did the right thing. He probably didnt apeak up right away because no one would anticipate that when the villain tables the almost nut low, that OP wouldnt table his hand. That would be a crazy thing to do. But he did muck, and OMC correctly pointed out that he has to table a hand to win, once another player tables his hand

So dealer contributed for sure, but if OP had been watching the hand instead of golf, he would have realized he needed to show to win.

Let's look at a slightly different situation, where say villain had the best hand, like AQ. Since he figures OP wouldnt bet or call without a paiir, he assumes his AQ high is no good. So he says you're good and tables his hand. Dealer assumes same thing and starts to push pot to OP(definitely a mistake). OP, not paying attention, mucks his hand.

Would anyone still say that OP gets the pot because the dealer started to push it to him? I dont think so. In both examples OP never showed his cards, so while we know in example one he actually had the best hand, he never ahowed it. So IMO the principle is the same in both examples. Villain tabled a hand. Dealer made error. OP made another error by mucking vs a tabled hand. OP never actually establishes he has the best hand.

Alright, OPTAH argument.

The guy who had 56 knew he was beat, end even said "You're good", but he still tabled his hand. Once a hand has been tabled, the pot can only be pushed to a player who shows better, and that did not happen. Dealer starts to push pot to someone other than the best tabled hand, and OMC corrects him. Is is every player's responsibility to make sure a pot is awarded correctly.

This wasn't an OPTAH violation; it was a player correcting the dealer who was incorrectly pushing a pot. Wouldn't it be more of an OPTAH violation for OMC to point out that the tabled hand was only 6 high and could be easily beat by anything hero called with?

You seem to take issue with the timing of the comment, but it seems to be it was likely one fluid motion: dealer pushes pot towards hero, hero tosses cards in, dealer kills them to prepare for next hand. It doesn't sound like OMC intentionally waited for hero's hand to be killed to speak up, as it seems like you may believe.

I agree that this is just a ****ty situation, but what other ruling could there have been?

person with 6 high is a pretty crappy person for taking the pot IMO. i would never accept that pot in his shoes.

Why? Because you missed the thread where someone called an all-in with 5-high? 6-high mathematically can't be the nut low here.

Also, I just fastroll here when the action is complete.

Your ace is good an awful lot of the time, you crush his flush draws (on a Ko7s4s board he can have top pair and a flush draw, on a Ks7s4o board he can only have bottom pair and a flush draw), and there's only one straight draw. You've got 12-15 outs here a lot of the time even if you're not good and equity-wise I think you can assume you're close enough to a flip that you're giving zero useful information about your range. There's no sense in making the fish show whatever POS hand he's going to show up with.

Fastroll, watch golf, and when the inevitable slowfold / slowroll comes on the river, smile and say, "Flush draw straight draw overcard, I wasn't folding." Whether you win or lose.

Because I 99.999% of the time didn't have the best hand, and the error occurred partly due to my conciliatory verbiage, and largely due to the dealer's procedural error. I am not interested in winning pots at showdown when I don't have the best hand because of procedural error.

Mise well throw more fuel on this fire.

Saturday at Choctaw I bet into a guy on the river with 8-high and he called and I said, "You win" and mucked. He mucked too. The dealer pushed him the pot. We got on with our lives.

How good would your hand have to be here to not feel bad about taking the pot?

What if you had 4s3s? QsTs?

Well if I had either of those hands I wouldn't say something like "you're good" implying I can't win. I would say "fours" or "Queen high" and table my hand or just silently table. I also presume with either of those hands the dealer likely also doesn't make the procedural error he makes. Additionally I would maintain control of my hand to have it not be mucked.