No link, but here it is.

Level SB BB Ante
1 25 50
2 50 100
3 100 200
4 150 300 25
5 200 400 50
6 300 600 75
7 400 800 100
8 600 1200 200
9 800 1600 300
10 1000 2000 300
11 1500 3000 500
12 2000 4000 500
13 3000 6000 500
14 4000 8000 1000
Not sure after that, but it esculates quickly..

Thanks!

With reentries till level 4 (60 bb) and 20 min/level that's a disaster in the making. Some players might start stalling from level 11.

Do they have any plans for hand-for-hand play at the end of day one. If they do, when do they plan to stop.

Your original question was, whether you should play that tournament. I think delaying your table, if you have the right stack 3 hours in, helps you. The benefit you gain from them removing around 20% of the chips is greater than the advantage you could get from playing poker for 20 min (IMO). But you need a thick skin for that.

I think this structure has a lot of problems, but I dont see how stalling is one of them. If anything, each table has more of an incentive to play quicky near the end. Short stacks want to get more opportunities to double up and get over the cut line. Big stack who are already safe want to give short stacks more opportunities to get their money in, because they know they will be getting it in light. And even people who are right around what they think is the cut line cant just stall, because they risk getting passed by players at other tables that are playing fast and eliminiating players, causing the cut line to increase.

Seems like a really bad idea for a tournament, but if you want to take advantage of it and just start openshoving super wide to either steal blinds or chip up to a top 60 stack over the last level or two of the day it could be used to your advantage EV wise

Obviously whoever came up with this tournament concept is retarded but that happens.

You are obviously right about the shorties. They have to gamble it up big time. I was thinking of the medium stacks, that are save in the sense that blinds and antes won't shrink their stack below the cut line. But they can't really afford to double up a smaller stack, because loosing those chips would put them at risk. This forces them to play really tight.

If the number of chips needed to survive can be estimated accurately enough, one could even construct a fold aces preflop situation for the last hand of level 12. You win a small pot (compared to your stack) most of the time, but you're out of the tournament, if your aces get cracked.

And when a player plays really tight it does make sense to stall, because he loses less in blinds and antes.

In this format stalling has the additional advantage of preventing the other players on the table from building a stack.

Hope this makes some sense.

Remember that the cut occurs way before the money. People who are barely above the cut line are still very big underdogs to make the money...they will be the shortest stacks with 180 players left, where ~70 players cash. So it really doesnt make sense to pass up very much chip EV just to make sure you make the cut.

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Could be interesting, from an 'experimental' point of view.

i probably wouldn't play it, because i have enough stress/frustration in my life without adding (IMO) stupid variables to an already stressful thing.

Just imagine you're sitting on a 30 BB stack in level 12. You have no fold equity against a 10 BB stack. You don't want to flip against a 10 BB stack because the danger zone might be just around the 20 BB line. How can you chip up during that period.
Or you could just wait till level 13. Shorties will fold to your raises again. And if you lose a third of your stack it will still hurt, but not kill you. Once you decide to wait, you don't want to play any more hands in level 12 then absolutely necessary.

We could also just agree to disagree. Neither of us is promoting to run a tournament this way so why argue about it.

Horrible idea. No reason for a TD to make this kind of event. It will just piss people off.

Why doesn't the tournament just play down to 60 players instead of stopping at a certain time?

About 15 years ago I used to play in a single table sit-n-go that was limit hold'em. The game would be played 10 handed, top 3 would get paid, and the blinds increased every 10 hands. Being that it was limit, there would frequently be 4-6 players left at the end, all jockeying for a top 3 spot. And in the last couple hands, especially the very last hand, every round of betting would go bet, raise, re-raise, cap. It wouldn't be unusual for someone to move from 4th place to 1st place on that last hand, and it was completely common for someone to move from 3rd place to out of the money. It was a crappy sit-n-go format then, and it sounds like this MTT in the OP is a crappy variation of that.

Somebody is going to go from 57th place to 61st place because he was dealt 73os on the final hand of the day and a bunch of desperate players went all-in on various tables around the room and caught him.

I've never played in a tournament where you can be eliminated when you still have chips, and I would never enter it. Horrible.

Just saw this on the their website/facebook page from the tourney director. Looks like their playing down to 60 players or to the 12th level. From what the tourney director has said below it looks like they might be paying out close to half the field? Would also think that 1st should be more than 20%, no? Think its worth playing? Any thoughts?

15,000 chips for $230 plus $5 dealer add-on 3,000 chips!! Each preliminary round will seat the first 200. The round will seat the first 200. The top 60 (max) will advance from each round to the finals Sunday, June 24th.

Mardi Gras Casino & Resort West Virginia ‎@ Aaron, you are correct there are three qualifying rounds to come back for the Sunday final. Friday, June 22 at 6:00p.m., Saturday June 23 at noon or 6:00p.m. will all be qualifiers. Whatever you have at the end of each round will be your starting chips for the Sunday final. Top 50 will be paid with first prize being 20% of prize pool (projected $25,000 for first).

@ Alex, below is the payout for the tournament:
1st 20%
2nd 11%
3rd 8%
4th 7%
5th 6%
6th 4.5%
7th 4%
8th 3%
9th 2.5%
10th 2%
11-15th 1.5%
16-20th 1.2%
21-30th .75%
31-40th .6%
41-50th .5%

Concept is certainly an interesting one. Execution though... If it's online with strict time controls and the ability to know your standings at all times, I'd be OK. Live, it'll take an entire crew of highly competent dealers and floor to make it run anything remotely close to smoothly. In reality, it's a cluster**** of cluster****s.

Are you sure that they aren't just playing the day ones down to 60 players reguardless of number of levels? I have never heard of this before. In the Winstar River series main event the day ones go until 20% of the field is left (up to 80 players out of 400 max)...then you take whatever chips you have left on to day two and start at the lowest level reached by day one groups on day two.

I have never heard of being knocked out of a tourney with chips left. That kind of defeats the purpose of a "freeze out" structure.