Just curious about where everyone stands in regards to 'no mercy at the tables' vs the human element of the game.

I play on those new electronic poker tables (everyone sits around a big table with touchscreen computers). Let's say UTG misclick shoves his entire 200bb stack in the middle. And for the sake of argument he's not angle shooting with AA he clearly misclicked and is begging everyone to fold. Folded around to you in the CO with a hand like QQ+/AK. Are you calling?

Snapping.

Dude should be more careful.

The table I played on in Reno was quite social, and in that setting I would have folded.

So if you have AA you're just going to pay for his mistake, let him have the blind money, and sacrifice all the profit from other people you could have made if he had folded??

I understand wanting to let him fix his mistake, but unfortunately it is impossible to do without hurting someone else.

If I was 100% positive that was the case, I would fold those hands ONE TIME, and made sure he knew that was his last chance.

I would have to be POSITIVE he had just made a mistake tho, and not Angle Shooting to fold. Any doubt and it's a snap call.

In a home game I'd let him correct his bet size and probably not even object to his correcting in a casino cash game if action hadn't proceeded to far but to do so, he would have to agree to folding his hand.

At a computer table, I wouldn't fold and since he killed my action, I might agree to some % of cash returned if he agreed to forfeiting any pot he might win plus Id need him to put up the cash as a guarantee.

In a tournament, it effects the field so nothing can be done.

Wow! Nits gotta nit I guess. How big did you say the pot was, besides his 200bb? 1 1/2bb? Because if it's folded to me in CO, I'm not going to be "that guy" spoiling the mood at the table because a noob to the machine, like the rest of us at the table, is unfamiliar with the machine.

It has nothing to do with nittery. This is an unfixable mistake. Someone is going to get hurt, no matter what is done by anyone. So who should get hurt, the person who actually made the mistake, or a totally innocent party?

Agree with chillrob.

Folding AA is -EV (duh). Why should *I* be punished because somebody else screwed up? There's like a 99% chance that somebody misclicking is the result of not being careful enough. Allowing them to get away with their mistake doesn't teach them anything, and they are likely to continue to be just as careless and eventually make another error.

Edit - TakenItEasy also brings up a valid point. It kills your action. What if there's some aggro-whale on your right that's been opening 95% of hands and never folding to 3bets? I would be in a great spot with a huge hand but now I have to give that up because somebody else isn't being careful? Sorry, no.

Not sure how this is relevant in any way.

Is there even a way to give the blinds their money back on an electronic table? The one time I played one it was impossible to give other players money (though it did allow chopping). Is this any different from a new player throwing in his "all-in" button without meaning to?

I'm snap calling with worse...88+ (probably any pair), AT+, Any two face cards

Sorry I'm not Sorry

I would ask to see his hand to guarantee that it was an accident, then call with any hand that is +EV vs. that hand.

i would call and say it was a mistake I thought I pressed fold

^ lol +1

As someone who has never played on one of these electronic tables, can someone give insight into how easy it is to misclick shove?

Well I wouldn't be playing on a computer table to begin with.

But if I was playing and a player was being wrongfully held to an all-in bet in this circumstance I would fold. But if the circumstances are different and there is any substantial money other than his ... then I play on.

If you're sure it was an honest mistake I'd let it go once. Just because you're dealt a big hand is no guarantee that you'll profit. What if you have AA in the SB and it fold around and BB asks you to chop. It's likely a low stakes game anyway. Ask the villain to buy a round of drinks for the table (or at least you) and call it even.

Snap call with Ax+
His mistake. My long-term profit.

You always should pay for your mistakes like in the example, according to your logic. If I have pocket AA and you misdeal, you should pay me.

edit: BTW I'm not picking a fight, and nothing personal. I just don't see the +ev in being "that guy." But you are a professional dealer and those mistakes should never happen. By your logic if they do, you should pay for them personally.

Those machines make you confirm every action. So it's at least 2 different clicks to go all in.

Not only do I call, but once CO calls if I haven't acted yet my range of calling just became enormous.

You are CO.

There's a big difference between a player making a mistake and a dealer making a mistake.

This is not the logic here at all. Neither he nor I is saying the guy should pay for his mistake. We're saying someone else SHOULDN'T pay for his mistake.