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Old 03-01-2010, 11:31 PM   #46
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Re: Worst live poker downswing?

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$107/hr
Must be a juicy game, isn't that over 50 ptbb/30 hands or 160 ptbb/100 hands?
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:33 AM   #47
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It's far easier to lose money than earn money.

That's why it's so important to be overrolled. If you see your bankroll shrinking, you will start trying to "protect it" instead of just grinding through that ****.

This costs you a lot of money in the long run.

If you're well rolled, it doesn't matter how sick you're running, you just grind through it and your earn returns.

I'm still not rolled nearly as well as I'd like to be
ur 100% right about that

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Old 03-02-2010, 11:13 AM   #48
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Re: Worst live poker downswing?

@nosup. You're confusing BB and ptbb. 1ptbb=2BB. So the winrate is around half that.
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:45 PM   #49
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@nosup. You're confusing BB and ptbb. 1ptbb=2BB. So the winrate is around half that.
Its even worse than that. In standard parlance:

1ptbb=1BB=2bb

where ptbb is "pokertracker big bet", BB is "big bet" synonymous with previous, and bb is standard "big blind". Confused yet?

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Old 03-02-2010, 01:23 PM   #50
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Just checked for kicks. My worst # of losing sessions in a row is 12. This was Live 8/16 LHE. (BTW, Most wins in a row is 13 at live NLHE games). Funny thing was that during this run only two of the losers were over $200 the rest were just a hundy here, $80 there etc. Didn't lose much during this run and got through it no prob. Have had way worse $ losses when losing like 6 or7 in a row for much larger losses per session. Still though one cannot help but feeling a bit defeated at times when losing this many in a row in all great games, when going thru it.

I think what I got from my losing sessions, other player's losers and or break even yrs etc, is that the long run is truly incredibly long indeed. The short run is amazingly short and tons can happen in a very short amount of poker time. Lots of peeps make the mistake of running stupidly good & winning=simply playing good and they think that it will never end. For those that have been around poker for a long time such as Limon and others here, you should pay attention to what they have to say. My 12 in a row # of losses for sa small amount of $ is no big deal really. I ran/played bad(yes im honest)when I took many shots at 20/40 and had to move back down and play other games. I am determined to get back though

I hate losing like anyone does but it is a part of poker and one has to know how to handle it. For those who have never had a run bad string and think that it wont happen, they are in for a rude awakening when it does. For those of us who have run bad before and it rears its head once again, hopefully having been thru it several times before will help when it happens again and we can handle it both mentally and $ly
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Old 03-02-2010, 01:40 PM   #51
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I lost 7 buy ins for a total of $3,500 in one night, so on my way out the door I went to black jack and doubled down a $1000 bet and hit a winning 20 then let it ride and hit a black jack on the next hand, made like $6,000! Then I played 10-20 NL and ran that to $11,000 and went home! talk about an up and down night!! To this day I have yet to run this bad and then this good in a 24 hour period..
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I lost 7 buy ins for a total of $3,500 in one night, so on my way out the door I went to black jack and doubled down a $1000 bet and hit a winning 20 then let it ride and hit a black jack on the next hand, made like $6,000! Then I played 10-20 NL and ran that to $11,000 and went home! talk about an up and down night!! To this day I have yet to run this bad and then this good in a 24 hour period..
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Old 03-02-2010, 02:22 PM   #53
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Re: Worst live poker downswing?

Last year I lost 7 out of 9 20/40 LHE sessions over a month. Total losses were 7 BI's. My wife talked me down and until recently I stopped taking winning for granted.

I typically win 60% of my sessions and win more in my winning sessions than I lose in my losing sessions. But when I lose 4 sessions in a row I know something is up with my game. Variance is one thing, but I know when I tilt I am compounding the losses.
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Old 03-02-2010, 02:37 PM   #54
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I lost 7 buy ins for a total of $3,500 in one night, so on my way out the door I went to black jack and doubled down a $1000 bet and hit a winning 20 then let it ride and hit a black jack on the next hand, made like $6,000! Then I played 10-20 NL and ran that to $11,000 and went home! talk about an up and down night!! To this day I have yet to run this bad and then this good in a 24 hour period..
Anyone who runs to the BJ table after getting stuck playing poker is destined to get and stay broke....JMO
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Old 03-02-2010, 03:07 PM   #55
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Re: Worst live poker downswing?

lost @7 buyins (500$) for the month of febuary playing 2/5 NL and it has been super stressfull, but is apparantly not even that bad of a downswing, still it's been hell.
Losing in super soft games just makes it psycologically worse for me; I'm sure this is a huge leak, letting observing heaps of negative EV play on the part of my opponents tilt me because i'm not able to take advantage of it because the cards are running bad for me, and the biggest donk at the table is on a huge heater every session, and you have to show them a hand because they are huge showdown monkeys, and they don't mind paying you off to see your hand. But I am actually losing in a great situation because I'm running cold at the moment, so i try to force things and end up losing my discipline and patience, and make some ill-advised play against a calling station.
I did very well the previous 7-8 months and especially January. I think winners tilt had a big effect on me during this downswing instilled from my previous good run; If i lose multible sessions after a winning streak, I tilt in a subtle, yet very dangerous way. has anybody else had this experience? You don't hear about it that much compared to hard tilt. I have to admit that at least half of my loses from feb. are due to spewy plays, and from gambling unnessisarily in big pots, playing draws fast in the wrong spots, ect. i feel like my radar is just off, and am not really enjoying the game, or feeling comfortable.
Have tried taking breaks , one for a full week, and am still running bad the last few sessions, I geuss you just try to play your way out of it, and use it as an oppurtunity to improve your game, and to figure out how to avoid tilt, or to reduce tilt in the future.
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:14 PM   #56
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Re: Worst live poker downswing?

I might also mention, how do some of you feel when you have had a number of winning sessions in a row, say 10+? Obv you feel great winning(who wouldnt)but do you ever start thnking in the terms of "I wonder how long this can and or will go?" It can start messing with your mind if your not careful
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:19 PM   #57
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I might also mention, how do some of you feel when you have had a number of winning sessions in a row, say 10+? Obv you feel great winning(who wouldnt)but do you ever start thnking in the terms of "I wonder how long this can and or will go?" It can start messing with your mind if your not careful
I had a pretty long live winning streak last year broken up in the middle by a small loss where I lost a decent sized pot with 2pr that I had to fold on the river the very last hand I played of my session. It still annoys the hell out of me

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Old 03-02-2010, 09:49 PM   #58
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I might also mention, how do some of you feel when you have had a number of winning sessions in a row, say 10+? Obv you feel great winning(who wouldnt)but do you ever start thnking in the terms of "I wonder how long this can and or will go?" It can start messing with your mind if your not careful
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:54 PM   #59
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I lost 7 buy ins for a total of $3,500 in one night, so on my way out the door I went to black jack and doubled down a $1000 bet and hit a winning 20 then let it ride and hit a black jack on the next hand, made like $6,000! Then I played 10-20 NL and ran that to $11,000 and went home! talk about an up and down night!! To this day I have yet to run this bad and then this good in a 24 hour period..
You won't beleive me now but someday you'll look back on that night and say, "that was the worst thing that ever happened to me"
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:13 PM   #60
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You won't beleive me now but someday you'll look back on that night and say, "that was the worst thing that ever happened to me"
translation: don't ever play blackjack again. ever.
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