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08-16-2012, 11:13 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 1,309
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
That sucks. Don't give business to this room anymore. Can't really speculate about what happened as it could have literally been anything. Maybe there is some conspiracy of the floor pocketing the money, maybe honest mistake, maybe story is true, maybe the floor is just lazy to do paperwork (could be the case.)
Sadly some poker rooms are run poorly and here there was clearly a problem with the customer service and how communicate and the whole situation was handled. They seemed to be rude to you.
I recommend writing a letter with details to corporate with name of floor manager and time of incident. Other than that, for $100 (I know the principal is a b*tch, I'm the same way) just let it go past the letter. Just don't play there anymore but if you have no choice, be very careful when dealing with the floor in the future.
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08-17-2012, 05:50 AM
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#17
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dumbest smart person his mom knows
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: "Wrong again!"
Posts: 15,551
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
I call BS whenever says, "It's not the $100, it's the principle!"
OP, if the prize for the high hand was $.05, would you run around the room yelling in a loud voice trying to find the winning player/dealer? Would start this thread, and sink time into responding to it? Of course not.
Sorry about the rest of it, but you hit my pet peeve.
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08-17-2012, 12:44 PM
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#18
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,381
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
OP, if the prize for the high hand was $.05, would you run around the room yelling in a loud voice trying to find the winning player/dealer? Would start this thread, and sink time into responding to it? Of course not.
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And if the OP responds to you saying that he would have? I have fought sums that mean nothing to me out of personal conflict with the greater implications. Let's not decide OP's lower limit for him.
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08-17-2012, 06:47 PM
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dumbest smart person his mom knows
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: "Wrong again!"
Posts: 15,551
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
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Originally Posted by albedoa
And if the OP responds to you saying that he would have?
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Then we can all turn our backs to him, one at a time, and leave him ranting and raving alone, like the bigoted juror in 12 Angry Men.
And as his rant runs out of gas, and he's pleading, "Listen to me! Listen to me!", I'll be the one guy who didn't leave--the guy who tells him, "I have. Now sit down and don't open your mouth again."
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08-17-2012, 06:52 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: You consider pro poker, living??
Posts: 339
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
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Originally Posted by OneCrazyDuck
To my knowledge, the state where this happened requires a bunch of signatures as well. I know I've seen high hands get paid out only after signatures from the dealer and the person who won the hand at other casinos in the area.
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This is what I expect to see, but he couldn't produce any of that. Just kept pointing me to his computer screen.
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08-17-2012, 06:55 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: You consider pro poker, living??
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
Then we can all turn our backs to him, one at a time, and leave him ranting and raving alone, like the bigoted juror in 12 Angry Men.
And as his rant runs out of gas, and he's pleading, "Listen to me! Listen to me!", I'll be the one guy who didn't leave--the guy who tells him, "I have. Now sit down and don't open your mouth again."
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I'm not ranting. I used to work for multiple casinos and I know for a fact that this type of situation shouldn't arise, ever. It's whatever as far as amount, it's $100, but I don't like being robbed. Let me ask you this:
If you dropped a $20 bill that was clearly yours, and some guy came by and said, "Hey, that's mine" and took it, and another person came along that wasn't involved, has no basis to make any statement about it, and said, "Yeah, that IS his," but the bill was CLEARLY yours... what would you do?
Would you just shrug it off? I doubt it. Because it's the principle.
So, that being said, yeah, it IS the principle. I bet you would have been upset just the same.
Moreover, the prize was not 5 cents, it was $100. And since I make about $100 an hour, it's worth 5-10 minutes of my time to fight for that, because that saves me 50 minutes of work tomorrow.
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08-17-2012, 10:01 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,275
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
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Originally Posted by integratyper777
And since I make about $100 an hour
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So out of curiosity, why were you looking for staking less that two months ago?
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08-17-2012, 10:05 PM
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#23
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journeyman
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: You consider pro poker, living??
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
So why were you looking for staking less that two months ago?
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My business and personal income and poker are completely separate. I've been playing off the same $250 since I was 18 years old, and that roll took a dip after some live staking ventures/live trips went poorly.
Connections are really big to me -- so to be 100% honest, I had some other motives behind finding a full time backer on the business end of things, however I've found somebody for that, but that's my business, literally.
Honestly, I think that's completely irrelevant to the thread or what happened. When I played semi professionally, this would have been a valid question moreso, but, I don't mind answering it.
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08-17-2012, 10:13 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Australia/Micro stakes Stars tab
Posts: 1,745
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Lol you americans are ****ing spoilt.
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08-18-2012, 03:25 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,381
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
It's absolutely atrocious that the people in this thread are putting the victim on the stand for issues totally unrelated to the topic.
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08-18-2012, 03:33 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: May 2008
Location: prolly ATF
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
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Originally Posted by albedoa
It's absolutely atrocious that the people in this thread are putting the victim on the stand for issues totally unrelated to the topic.
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Welcome to Brick and Mortar, where if a poster tells a story and forgets that the suit of a card on a rainbow flop was a spade and not the club he said it was earlier, the whole story must be entirely fabricated and the poster must be detained for interrogation.
*edit* I know this isn't exactly what you're talking about
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08-18-2012, 02:42 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Deep East Texas
Posts: 1,652
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
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Originally Posted by albedoa
It's absolutely atrocious that the people in this thread are putting the victim on the stand for issues totally unrelated to the topic.
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QFT
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08-18-2012, 05:24 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: You consider pro poker, living??
Posts: 339
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
Lol well, at this point, I'd say someone should lock the thread because those that cared gave their opinions and it's well off topic by now
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08-18-2012, 06:19 PM
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dumbest smart person his mom knows
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: "Wrong again!"
Posts: 15,551
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
I agree. Your reaction over $100 is quite warranted.
My point was that if you carried on like this over $.05, that would be ranting. I apologize for not being more clear. This misunderstanding was 100% my fault.
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Let me ask you this:
If you dropped a $20 bill that was clearly yours, and some guy came by and said, "Hey, that's mine" and took it, and another person came along that wasn't involved, has no basis to make any statement about it, and said, "Yeah, that IS his," but the bill was CLEARLY yours... what would you do?
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Would you just shrug it off? I doubt it. Because it's the principle.[/QUOTE]
I would do exactly what you're doing here, but not "because it's the principle." I would do it because it's $20. Again, if it were five cents, you think I'm going jump in and fight with these people? I'm going to laugh at them. $20 isn't a laughing matter. But you know that, that's why you changed my example from $.05 to $20--you knew your example would sound ridiculous if $.05 were on the line.
BTW, I'm glad you make $100/hr, but it's LOL that you'd mention that here. Back when Artie Lange was spiraling out of control on his last days on the Stern show, he angrily pivoted any discussion that was critical of him to, "How much do you make?!?", as if his higher income had any bearing on what was being discussed.
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08-18-2012, 09:46 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,381
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Re: Won high hand and floor told me I didn't, fabricated story and didn't pay me my $100
youtalkfunny your misunderstanding comes from your misquoting of the OP:
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
I call BS whenever says, "It's not the $100, it's the principle!"
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He didn't say that. This is the actual quote:
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Originally Posted by integratyper777
It's more than the $100, it's the principal of how it was handled
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Emphasis is mine. Your reaction is completely out of line and unwarranted.
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