Why do people take it personal when you raise their big blind? - Page 2 - Poker Card Room

mackem790 · 02-06-2012, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kobold Esq

I am usually honest. "I raised because I want the money, and I figured this would get you to let me have it."

I prefer something like "I just do what the cards tell me to do".

Sometimes I might just blame it on the voices in my head

Kobold Esq · 02-06-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mackem790

I prefer something like "I just do what the cards tell me to do".

Sometimes I might just blame it on the voices in my head

Well at least this way it sounds like I am playing ATC (which, to be fair, I might be depending on the villain). Eventually someone will make a poor choice to spite call, as the above poster noted.

mrducks · 02-06-2012, 06:20 PM

I don't think many people take it personally in reality. They might make a joke or a comment but then they let it pass. If people really take it personally it is because it is costing them money. If someone has AA in the BB and they get raised, I'm sure they don't take it personally but appreciate it.

I think any sort of action by other players that costs you money is something that people "take personally". If you have a flush draw and someone bets you out of the hand then you take it personally. If someone folds the second best hand to you on the river, then it is something that is taken personally.

cdog · 02-07-2012, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dan797s

And raising preflop in general. People complain that they cant "play their bad beat hand" now

About 85% of the worlds population are clueless idiots or ignorant, selfish fools.

Get used to it.

ie404 · 02-07-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cdog

About 85% of the worlds poker players are clueless idiots or ignorant, selfish fools.

Look forward to it.

fyp

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the_spike · 02-07-2012, 06:19 PM

You have to realize where people come from. Some people actually play in games where check-raising is not allowed. It's funny to occasionally see in some dumpy casino poker room a sign with rules like "check raising is allowed".

Most low stakes players don't really know the rules because they make up their own at the kitchen tables in neighborhood games, so just be nice and keep playing your game.

the_spike · 02-07-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mackem790

I prefer something like "I just do what the cards tell me to do".

That's basically what I do. In a voice like Judge Smails talking to Danny, "I didn't wanna do, but I felt I owed it to the cards."

PocketFour20 · 02-11-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Do You See Why

This is the main reason I dont chop, people take it personal. Folds to SB who starts to muck his hand while giving me that questioning look....
Me: "I dont chop"
Them: "You dont chop?!?!?!?"
Me: "No"
Them: "Ever?!?!?!"
Me: "No."
Them: "Fine. Call."
I raise about 5x.
They spite call.
Then they check/fold 90% of flops.
yay.

man if i only got a dollar for everytime this happens

ibelieveinkolb · 02-12-2012, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PocketFour20

man if i only got a dollar for everytime this happens

actually, you get significantly more than $1

Temujen · 04-04-2012, 11:48 PM

I check-raise this guy sometime ago and he got so upset and he says something stupid that "check-raising should not be allowed"... so i told the dummyhe shouldnt have bet if he didnt want to be checked-raised... well knowing he was beat he still paid me off.

psychocat · 04-05-2012, 03:49 AM

I once played against this guy who took out a pen and a piece of paper and started making notes about how many times I raised his bb. He is a really aggressive player and i only raised his bb if i had a legitimate hand.

"Ok that was enough, next time i just go all in, that will teach you!"

"No problem i will call you!"

next time I had AA.....

Bene Gesserit · 04-05-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lawdude

Fundamentally, 99 percent of live poker leaks (this included) can be understood in a single sentence:

Most live players are too impatient to play good TAG or even LAGTAG poker, and are unwilling to fold often enough.

That's all this is. People come to the casino to play, not fold. Folding is not fun. They know that they should be folding some of their BB hands to a raise, and that even with respect to hands that they choose to play, they will have to fold the flop, so the raise interferes with them playing the way they would like to play and forces them to tighten up.

Obviously, long term, you want players who complain about this at your table, because their impatience will redound to your benefit over time.

(And more generally, understanding this single leak, not having it yourself, and taking advantage of it in other players is the single biggest key to being a winning player at low limits.)

I don't want to sound like a suckup, but that is about the most profound couple a paragraphs describing 1-2 1-3 Casino play that I have ever read. I can't count the times folks have chided me for folding pre so much or on the flop.

This is great advice

Lucypher · 04-05-2012, 11:22 AM

If you think they take it personally at 1-2 NL, you should see how they react in a tournament after the blinds have begun to increase significantly. Folks get downright nasty. I think it's silly since every player that signed up should know that this is how the game is played before they sign up and pay their money. If I see I can get a player to tilt and start playing back at me with any two cards out of frustration, I will do it relentlessly. Politely, but relentlessly.

unlucky4me · 04-06-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PocketFour20

man if i only got a dollar for everytime this happens

I'd like to have that dollar for everytime some doughball went broke when their straddle gets raised

psujohn · 04-06-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spike

It's funny to occasionally see in some dumpy casino poker room a sign with rules like "check raising is allowed".

You need to understand that in the not to distant past check-raising was considered bad etiquette. Kind of the way that we view slow-rolling today. The etiquette that surrounds a game like poker will change over time and it's possible that someone complaining about a check-raise grew up with the game when that was considered bad form and would never do it themselves.

Doesn't mean I'm not gonna check raise the guy though.

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Originally Posted by Bene Gesserit

I can't count the times folks have chided me for folding pre so much or on the flop.

The thing that amuses me the most is when a guy proclaims that I'm the tightest player that's ever lived only to call my 3-bet and check-fold the flop.