very entertaining

what are you talking about? food is basically free there.

Great read all we were missing were the pictures. I often have to explain to people that I love poker but the players are what keep me from playing more. Where I play (Chicago) at least 2/3 the tables are made up of players with extremely poor hygene or are complete tools who believe they are superior in every way to the rest of the table and act like 3 year olds battling for toys at preschool. The other third usually keep fairly quite and operate with a decency towards others.

Please post more reports I love to read your slant on things and image I am playing poker rather than sitting at work.

not in the 5-10. only in the 10-20. in the 5-10 you have to show your card and you technically only get one meal every 8 hours. plus if you assaulted the dealer w/ a burger you would be frog walked out of there and have at least a 30 day ban...hence no second burger.

Still hoping the hamburger story is true. Too lol..

I can't stop laughing at this line about soup. I'm picturing the lunch menu and the corresponding penalties for throwing each item at a dealer. Hamburger: 1 day ban. Soup: two day ban . . .

Last time I was there in 5/10 they would ask for your card
This time they just ask for your initials so I threw out my card

oh yeah i forgot the 5/10 isnt in the high limit room, which is silly because 8/16 IS in the high limit room.

No, there isn't.


8/16 moves around, it used to be in the main room and currently it's in the galleria area while LAPC is going on. They don't have space for 5/10 on the high limit side, it would take up half the room.

And just where do you hail from I.Stoner? Wow. LOL @ the thought of Commerce being mistaken for "American Culture." I want to know. Just who is your "we" I.S.?

yes there is
it says dealer abuse such as, lists a whole bunch of things and includes the word expectorate (spitting) at the dealer

terrific

OP's story is very believable. LA cash structure is so terrible, if I play live, I usually go to the San Diego area casinos. You have the worst kinds of people in LA casinos. Imagine your basic slum, but since it's LA, the slums costs more than most nice places elsewhere. Next think of the average person in the slums, not your typical well mannered people. Since this is LA a lot of the people that live in these slums have some cash. They go play at Commerce. A few cards that run bad and viola you get Commerce stories such as the one OP tells. OP if you want a decent cash structure and nice weather go to San Diego, I hear it's a lot better but I'm not sure if the high buy in cash game runs down there.

Great tr. glad I decided to stay in sd

i like how you detail 100 reasons why commerce is a **** hole filled with misery and in the same breath you tell kids to not wear headphones

good tr i enjoyed it =)

Maybe its cali card rooms in general? I played at lucky chances (just one tourney for most of the day), and man, those people were a*****holes. The dealers were the worst. The grumpiest, meanest SOBs and B***tches ever.

And heaven forbid you ask them to enforce english only! obviously I'm a racist prick, not a guy who is you know, making sure people aren't cheating.

Of course, I find people in California to be kinda douchey in general compared to midwest, so maybe that's it.

i have put in a lot of hours in san diego card rooms (palomar, village club, oceans 11). i have found the floor and dealers to be very nice and respectful in general

Op, did you 3bet AQ, check back Kxx flop, raise the T turn lead, bink an A and get some value off a nice guy in 5-10 at Commerce? I think I was sitting next to you and recall you telling some of these stories. Or... someone else had a similar experience to yours.

HG is plenty scummy fwiw, give it time. Welcome to the jungle (LA).

How do you do this?

Nope wasn't me,although I played a bunch of hours with a lot of the same people so a few of us probably saw a lot of the same stuff.

Thanks for the hg warning.

Love the OP's trip report. Short stories to the point. I play a lot at HG and I can absolutely attest to these stories being far within the reach of reality.

It's hilarious till it happens at your table.

Thanks for the TR. Think I woke up my wife with my laughing at the hamburger incident.

Played mostly 10/20, and I have to say that this LAPC was definitely more well behaved than previous years. Obv you can't change the random slowrolling / nitrolling from the occational douchebag. I have pretty thick skin and don't really get into a lot of problems in general thou, so my experience is usually smooth. Pretty much the only time I was playing with tool bags was one night during the week at like 5am when 10/20 wasnt running I went to play 5/10 and there were 2 guys that were berating the dealers from stupidly small mistakes just because they were stuck.

One thing I will like to take the time to call out thou during this LAPC: Young asian player with a hoodie named Adam Hsu. Seemed like a nice kid, my roommate and I had a little small talk with him over non-poker related stuff. Seemed like he had some manners. Apparently not... He would buy in for $600 at $10/$20, sit down and play til he gets his stack around $1k-1.5k. As soon as he got there, he went to get a table change. Would rack up his chips, and make sure $600 is in a rack and the rest in his hoodie pocket, then move over to the new table with just the $600. The first time I watched this happened I was a little confused, but didn't say anything because he was moving from my table to another. About 2 hours later he came back to my table with $600, and already I'm thinking wtf!?! I went to ask the floorman (XXXXXXXXXX, nut low floorman working those games. Basically need to tip him every time to do anything in his job description) and he said that you are able to buyin for the minimum each time you move to another table as long as your not coming back to the same table within some time limit. *Insert exploding head .gif* I counted during one of my sessions this kid moving 6 times between 5 different $10/20 tables. Pretty much one of the dirtiest things I've seen in all my years going to LAPC.

Other than that, I think cash games were a bit smoother this year. I guess all the ******s are going bust

I make fun of the douchebaggery at Commerce myself, but it sure sounds like OP isn't exactly an innocent party here. He slowrolled hands with top set and where he knew his opponent had nothing, rubbed bad beats into people's faces, and complained about things that are basically standard.

For somebody who say's they have pretty thick skin it doesn't seem like it at all if you have such a problem with a player changing tables once they reach a certain chip goal.

From my experience most of the times these players who change tables after they win a certain amount are nits (or play pretty solid) who you don't want at your table anyways. So I'd rather see them change tables than stay at my table anyways.