lol, where'd you buy that high horse bro?

Normally these things are based on when the hand starts not when it ends.

Where I play there have been instances of no high hand for a half hour being made, and that money is NOT rolled over and paid out to players. In addition, my hand was pretty much at the bottom of qualifying hands. Whatever the case, it's very common in this room for a new high hand to be announced right after the half-hour reset.

This is a room that takes the jackpot drop money from cash game players and uses it to fund $5 million guaranteed tourney seats at their other property hundreds of miles away, caps the BBJ, doesn't reduce the rake for short-handed games, takes a drop even if there isn't a flop, etc.

So I'm not feeling guilty in the slightest, I'm getting that 5-hundo

In this particular room, delaying a high hand is super common. I would say that at least half the time, a new high hand is announced within one minute of the new half hour starting. Often, they will announce that the old hand won the previous half hour and new high hand for the current half hour in the same announcement. Ive never heard anyone complain about that, and in the OPs case AAAJJ is either the nut low or second nut low that qualifies, and almost never holds up.

As for tipping, no need to tip on the jackpot before you actually get the money. Just find the dealer when you get paid. I think the $4 was good to cover the dead time, and then whatever you feel for the 500

$4 was more than enough if the dealer only had to wait two minutes without getting out another hand, especially in an Omaha game.

I would say "Thanks, guys" to my table mates and buy them a round of drinks(~$8-9).

If your hand holds up, I would tip the dealer $15.

So, roughly, you'd be looking at a little under $30 from the $500 you won. As always, it's your choice.

No free liquor in this room, just sodas/water is free, they charge you for alcohol

That's what I meant when I said to buy them a drink, as most players(at least the ones I play with) drink bottled water, coffee, tea, and sometimes soda. Very little alcohol. But, whatever. If you think a simple "Thank you" is sufficient, then leave it at that.

What about ordering a pizza for the table? Everyone loves a good pizza at 3 am, right?

"Thank you guys conspiring with me and letting me cheat."

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Seems pretty standard to me.

Stretch it out much more and I can see there being a problem but I'm pretty sure tanking for the high hand (in rooms where it's when the hand ends, not when it begins is the rule) is really common. You are costing the dealer, particular in HE games where the hands come out more swiftly, and potentially annoying other players. 2 minutes is probably at tipping point, and since you covered the dealer and the players didn't care then it's whatever.

Tip extra for the hand to cover the dealer's dead time, tip your standard if the hand holds up (for 500 I've seen anything from $5 to $50, and obviously the $50 was not standard).

Also I had a guy once seriously tell me I should have instructed him to tank when he hit a very good high hand right before a period started. The hand ended literally 10 seconds before the high hand period began.

Because I somehow knew he was holding a straight flush to the queen.

Our room announces the impending high hand period about 10-15 minutes before it starts, BTW.

How much would you tip MaxValue to stop making ******ed posts?

MaxValue, this isn't a low-content thread. Make low-content posts in the low-content thread or don't make them at all.

Maybe you should spend your time calling out the guys who throw around the term "cheater" rather than the people who show them how obviously dumb that is.

Anyway, got my answer, thanks to those who aren't dicks who responded. laters

Many would consider it cheating, just because you don't doesn't make them dumb.

just be lucky I wasn't in that game or I would have called clock lets move onto the next hand already. you out smarted everyone I hope the high hand got you closer to even for the day. I guess if I needed it as bad as you I might have tried to pull some shenanigans also but I am not selfish like that and my hourly is holding me up pretty well (knock on wood)

Further posts on the side issue presented re delaying during high hand promotions go here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...imate-1528362/

From another thread in B&M which I didn't want to hi-jack or derail, so I'm responding in this thread:

$2 chips are awesome from a dealer's/tipping perspective. When I cash out my tips at the end of the night, I generally have about half as many $2 chips as $1 chips, which is to say that I end up with just about equal money in $1 and $2 chips sitting in my tip box.

There are times when I'll see a player combing through the pot he just won looking for a $1 chip to tip me with - when he can't find one, he'll give up and toss me a $2 tip instead.

Do I use this to my advantage? Yes.

If a player asks me to chop a $2 chip so that he can tip me $1, will I comply? Of course.

Do I ever lose out on a $1 tip because a player doesn't have any whites and doesn't want to ask me to chop? Yes, probably.

We have $2 chips because in Florida there's a $2 jackpot rake, but there's no standard in our room regarding putting the $2 chips in play - it's incredibly common and all of the dealers do it where I work.

I generally put white chips in play at 1/2 NL and of course I have them in play at 2/4 limit. But at 2/5 NL and higher, I make a habit of keeping the whites off the table entirely except when they're asked for by a player.

I'd estimate that by doing this I can probably pick up an extra $10-$20 per shift. Plenty of players don't really think about tipping, they just pick up one or two of the smallest denomination chips they can find and throw them to the dealer when they win a hand.

Local casino, 6/12 LHE game played with $2 chips.
$4 drop per hand.
Very few $1s on the table.
Used to be by far the best for the dealers.

Then the drop went to $5

Now every pot had a $1 chip. No more having to ask the dealer to chop a $2 to tip $1.

Game still good for the dealers, but the change definitely affected their tips.

Even better for the dealer (and players) is to make that 6/12 game all $1 chips.

That would be very awkward for the players to make bets, and I fail to see how it would help the dealers either. A dealer just said he got better tips in a game that uses $2 chips.

Plenty of limit games use 6/12 betting units, and they are great for the game. There was a 60/120 game with a 2/3 kill, all with 10 dollar chips around 10 years ago. It used to be 40/80 or 75/150. When the 60/120 was spread instead of the 75 game, the games were insane. 100/200 kill pots were sickly loose.

Then the chip nits kept complaining because they don't know how to cut stacks of four chips quickly, and they went back to spreading 75/150 instead, and the game tightened up and the 40/80 was loose, but nothing like the 60/120. Loose gamblers love to see a table with big pots so they put their name on that list to gamble it up.

A person raking in 180 chips will generally tip more than 90 chips of double the value because they are misled to believe the pot is bigger than it is with all those checks they are stacking for 2 hands and toss 5 bucks instead of 2 bucks, same goes for players calling incorrectly because of the illusion created by the mound of chips in the pot.

The dealer who said he prefers 2 dollar chips that did not say he got more tips in the same game with 2 dollar chips; he said he gets better tips in 2 dollar chip games (e.g., he gets better tips in a 3chip/6chip 2 dollar chip game than a 3chip/6chip 1 dollar chip game due to there not being many 1 dollar chips on the table. Double the chip amounts of each pot with the dollar amount being equal, and his toke box will be stuffed.)

The guys that will not tip more in these situations are the guys that are already asking for a chop on the 2 dollar chip, but the guy tossing 2 bucks and not asking for a chop will generally tip more than 2 bucks when the pot chip size is double.

He said he got more tips because the players couldn't be bothered to break a $2 chip.

I have played in lots of $6/12 games. Only one didn't use $2 chips, and in that one players used $5s and $1s. The players would definitely have objected if they tried to make them use all $1s.

Yes, and those are the guys that tip lavishly in big pots. 6chip/12chip games make pots look much bigger when they are double the size than if the same game were with double the size chips and half the mound of chips in the center.

Yes, I'm not saying the chip nits don't object to that, but they are short-sighted. If you've never played a 6chip/12chip game, then of course you don't get it. People loosen way, way up and the huge (looking) pots attract gamblers.

Honestly I think it is a myth that games with more chips are looser. I have never played in a 6/12 chip structure, but I have played in lots of 4/8, 3/6, 2/4, and even 1/2 structures, and saw no difference in looseness. And I don't know why a person who tipped $2 because of laziness would be the same guy who would tip more because of more chips in the pot; seems likely to me he would just tip $1.

playing at tables where they put $2 chips into the pot (as opposed to using them for the rake only) and i ONLY play $1-2 NL, no limit games, really annoys me. and i blame the dealers for this, instead of the house, (they probably talked the house into changing the chips). they did this all the time when i was playing in florida this winter. so i punished the dealers by leaving no tips at all, so theyd learn a lesson about being annoying.

its extremely annoying because u never have $1s and who wants to have to make 3 chips stacks? one or two stacks of reds, (with $50-300 in it) and then two seperate piles of only 2-3 chips each of $1s and $2s. plus u constantly are needing change for the $1 blind. its a rude type of customer service and ive heard multiple others complain, including a famous ante up columnist for the vegas area.