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Old 06-02-2010, 07:13 PM   #91
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Re: Tipping after winning a MTT

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Depends on where you are playing. All of the MTT's I play in at the Taj or Borgata are ridiculously soft. Buyins usually ranging from $70-$300

And yes, Saying that a $100 live tournament is at the same skill level as a 10c tournament on stars is fairly accurate. The majority of people I come across have NO idea what they are doing. They don't know when to post blinds, don't understand the process of betting and position, don't understand which hands beat which, are unaware of the value of different color chips (no joke), will string bet constantly, and will chase ANY draw completely oblivious of things like pot odds.
your out of your f.ing mind, saying the MAJORITY of people don't even know how to play the game (when to bet and chip values is laughable) your a shmuck to just like the ones your making fun of and I bet you lose your ass to these mooks because they got lucky YOUR A ****
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:17 PM   #92
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Re: Tipping after winning a MTT

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your out of your f.ing mind, saying the MAJORITY of people don't even know how to play the game (when to bet and chip values is laughable) your a shmuck to just like the ones your making fun of and I bet you lose your ass to these mooks because they got lucky YOUR A ****
That time of the month huh? The majority of people in tournaments don't know how to play or understand the procedure behind betting. Hell, half of them don't even know the difference between a bet and a raise.

I think most people would agree with me. I'm not certain why you are getting so defensive.

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Old 06-02-2010, 10:21 PM   #93
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Re: Tipping after winning a MTT

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Four bucks an hour! Woot!
Thank god for all the tip nits on 2+2, it's the lord's work they're doing.

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Old 06-02-2010, 11:54 PM   #94
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Re: Tipping after winning a MTT

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Can someone answer my question?

Are live MTTs really this soft that you can still make a profit after giving away 30-40% of your winnings every time you cash? I keep reading about people playing in 20-30% raked games and then tipping 3-10%. Needless to say I'm skeptical that they are winning MTT players, but that's why I'm asking. It sounds like a live $100 buyin tourney is the same skill level as a 10c MTT on stars.
I remember posting in a thread on this type of subject a while ago. This whole tipping on a mtt varies when people say "win". Some people think that means "1st", others seem to think it means "cash". You are taking it to mean "cash". But I'm willing to bet many people here who are talking about tipping, are only talking about after they finish "1st".

I have no problem tipping 5% when I finish 1st in a mtt and have done so in the past. But I tip nothing when I min cash. And I'll tip something in between 5% and nothing when I finish 2nd through 5-7 depending on the size of the tournament. Obviously if there is a dealer add on or some such thing I rarely tip anything.

But I don't play poker for a living so I can't answer your question if this is sustainable as a livelihood.

This whole thing about the rake out of tournament compared to cash is a little twisted I think. They take nothing out of any pot during the tournament as opposed to cash where they take there cut every hand. I'm guessing if you look closely at it you get more play for your money in tournament than you do for cash. It's just at cash they nickle and dime you to death and you don't even see it. Whereas in a tournament it is just so starkly in front of you how much you are paying them.
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Old 06-03-2010, 12:59 AM   #95
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Re: Tipping after winning a MTT

My understanding was that 1-3% was customary even when there is money held back or a bonus chip fee or whatever.

I probably wouldn't do this for a min cash, but I think it's reasonable and nice to do so for a significant cash, eg top 5 or even final table in a decent size tourney.

I luckboxed my way to a ~5k cash (2nd place) at the St Louis WSOP Circuit and left $100 or so for the dealers, who were generally very nice and very competent. I play recreationally and not for a living, so sharing a bit of my winnings with the dealers wasn't a big deal for my bottom line. Actually made me feel kinda good about myself.
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Old 06-03-2010, 01:39 AM   #96
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Re: Tipping after winning a MTT

i still tip if I am more than mincash. I'm a nice guy
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