I can recall maybe 5 times in my live play when I've noticed a real, reliable tell in the eyes.

I've been told I blink a lot and therefor must be bluffing.

I've been told I blink a lot and therefor must be value betting.

The real question about glasses is are your opponents capable of reading you AND making a proper read. If yes, glasses. If not, which is the majority of the time, I prefer to not wear them.

An aside, I sometimes bring my cheap 5$ Iowa Hawkeye glasses to the room and say I'm using them to read the other players. It either gets a laugh or tilts the hell out of some people.

People on this forum will label players with sunglasses as bad. However, I'm not sure the players in live games would do the same.

Huh? We are live game players

lol no it's pretty obvious at least at the higher limits people w glasses take the game way too seriously and in general are timid nits petrified of giving off tells.and i'm not even great at picking up live tells, but people w glasses are usually the easiest to pick them up from, and they don't realize that hands are the most reliable tells anyway.

and both groups are dbags

That's why I wear gloves when I play...

There is a BIG difference between live game players that post on this site, and the average live game player that almost always really sucks. How is that not obvious?

Whats a set up?

I'm sorry I forgot the only good live poker players in the world are 2+2 members.

I've never worn them for many of the reasons mentioned here but I forgot I had them on when I started playing a $550 satellite for the main recently. All the players were pretty serious and I am not comfortable staring people down so I left them on and actually enjoyed being able to hide where my eyes were looking. Silly or not, I felt like I was in a cocoon hidden by the shades. I'd prefer not to wear them but I'm not sure I'll ever feel comfortable staring people down like Mike McDonald does without them.

I'm sorry that you're having trouble understanding what I wrote even though I made it very simple for you. Let me help you out. I said live game players almost always suck. I did NOT say that all of them suck. As a result, a small percentage will be better than the players that suck. Some of them will even be good players. How is that hard to understand?

Also, are you actually suggesting that the average poster on 2+2 that plays live is no better than the average live player in a casino?

it would actually make more sense

Burqa and sunglasses.

Asking for a new deck of cards.

Not exactly the same, but yea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56HSPQHSqEE


Also, I think wearing sunglasses at the table is stupid. But I don't care if someone wants to.

Though I have to admit that I found the original post somewhat amusing in that moving from 1/2 to 2/5 he felt he started encountering many sunglass wearers.

I don't go play live that often. But the times I have I see just about nobody wearing sunglasses in cash games. You see a few of them in tournaments.

regardless of which side of this debate is "right or wrong", sunglasses have absolutely no place at a $1/2 casino game. If you're a pro or even a top tier amateur you're not playing $1/2. it doesn't matter if you have sunglasses or not at a typical 1/2 game. the players in that field are generally not good, and therefore not reading any tell you may give off. In my humble opinion, all ppl who wear sun glasses at 1/2 table are posers and nothing more, and in my experience, some of the biggest fish at the table.

people really do that? lmao

I am suggesting that there are plenty of good live players they do not post on 2+2.
You were suggesting that anyone who does not post on 2+2 is a bad player and that is just lol.

I wear sunglasses cause I want to watch people but not make it obvious. It is also a good image because of stereotypes as described.

Wait, so you think that in general, live players that don't post here are as good as players who post here? Lol at that.

Nope. I suggested that IN GENERAL, they tend to suck. Sorry if that's too hard for you to understand.

Steve,

Did you quote my post because it was Epic and needed to be requoted?

Wait a minute, of course you did...good quote sir!

Obviously lame...

I seriously don't know how people wear them.. I can't imagine sitting down at the table then sliding a pair of glasses on my face... It gives me hardcore douche chills just thinking about it.

On a practical note, what can they possibly help? Do dwan, ivey, antonius, etc. wear them? Ofc not. Another problem is you might develop a habit of wearing them and then when u don't have them and wanna play you might feel nervous, uncomfortable, etc.

Learning how to control your emotions and remain stoic when making value bets, bluffs, etc is certainly +EV over a lifetime of a poker career IMO.

Just get a routine every hand and try not to change. Ex: always bet chips with right hand, always look at card 1 on the flop after better, or whatever you feel comfortable with.

In the end as had been said "whales" don't want to feel like they're sitting down with some super serious internet kid. Remember a poker table is a place where personalities clash and a lot of people are just there to have a fun social experience.

1. "change my luck"

2. Deck has a bunch of imperfections, marks, creases, etc.

3. You have been playing at the same table for 6 hours. The table has paid over $1000 in rake. They are still playing with the same 2 deck setup that was not "new" when they originally put it on the table before you got to the table. The setup cost the casino less than $20. Maybe it would be nice to play with a "fresher" deck.

I play at a decent casino. I think if someone asked a dealer/floor they may look at the player like they are crazy hahaha

Asking for a new setup is a pretty standard request. It doesn't happen a lot because it really slows the game down, but if you ask the floor/dealer they will usually oblige, within reason of course