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Sunglasses - Lame or a real advantage? Sunglasses - Lame or a real advantage?

07-06-2014 , 10:29 AM
I love how riled up people get over the sunglasses debate. On both sides.
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07-06-2014 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by oldschool_vegas
For me, sometimes my eyes get wide when I hit a perfect flop, or hit that lucky turn and river
Strat alert, but you realize that you're not obligated to look at the board when the dealer puts it out, right? While everyone is looking at the board, look at them. As people act, consider what boards you'd fold / call / raise. Look for their tells. Try to see if the flop hit them - without knowing what the flop even is. Then when it's almost your turn to act, look at the board and act quickly because you've pre-thought it.

Conversely, when action is on your opponent, it's a perfect time to look at the board. Any actions he gives are likely acting, so staring at him is basically worthless. Think about your entire range of hands, what monsters you may have on this board, what bluffs you may have on this board. Ten bonus points for forgetting what you actually have because you're totally engrossed in analysis.
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07-06-2014 , 01:27 PM
I wear them when playing the Bovada 100k....have cashed 4 of 10 tournies with them.

Obviously an advantage.
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07-06-2014 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Fin-Omenal
I wear them when playing the Bovada 100k....have cashed 4 of 10 tournies with them.

Obviously an advantage.
LOL

Did you play 10 times without them to compare?
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07-06-2014 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyrochaos
I love how riled up people get over the sunglasses debate. On both sides.
Because someone, somewhere decided they make a person look like a douche and others agreed, which made the rest of us think about it a bit more and agreed with the masses that anyone who wears sunglasses inside except for medical reasons is exhibiting douchy behavior and therefore is a douche.

The question that really should resolve all debate on the topic is "is it good for the game" and the answer s a resounding no. ANYONE who does anything at the table which makes the table worse, is a douche.
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07-06-2014 , 06:55 PM
I'm reminded of an old adage

"There are two types of people who wear sunglasses indoors, blind people and douche bags"
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07-07-2014 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
I'm reminded of an old adage

"There are two types of people who wear sunglasses indoors, blind people and douche bags"
+1
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07-07-2014 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
Strat alert, but you realize that you're not obligated to look at the board when the dealer puts it out, right? While everyone is looking at the board, look at them. As people act, consider what boards you'd fold / call / raise. Look for their tells. Try to see if the flop hit them - without knowing what the flop even is. Then when it's almost your turn to act, look at the board and act quickly because you've pre-thought it.

Conversely, when action is on your opponent, it's a perfect time to look at the board. Any actions he gives are likely acting, so staring at him is basically worthless. Think about your entire range of hands, what monsters you may have on this board, what bluffs you may have on this board. Ten bonus points for forgetting what you actually have because you're totally engrossed in analysis.
This, absolutely. As long as I am not first to act, I am watching everything except the board cards when they come out.

For me, the only real value in sunglasses is that they allow me to keep playing even if the lighting is bothering me. But it's gotta be excruciating for me to even consider wearing sunglasses at the table. I've done it twice in my whole life, I believe, both for legitimate migraines. One was at a $0.10/$0.20 limit drunken dealer's choice home game (tons of image concerns in that game, obviously).

To be fair, I suppose they have the advantage of shielding your eyes so your opponents can't see what you're looking at. That's the only tell they usually conceal, so that's a point in their favor, maybe, if you suck enough that your eyes regularly tip your hand. But for every time that works out for you, you're probably going to lose at least that much to sloppy errors created by the sunglasses (or worse, reflecting your cards with mirror shades), never mind all the donators you repel by spilling douche all over the table.

Summary: lame.
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07-07-2014 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
I'm reminded of an old adage

"There are two types of people who wear sunglasses indoors, blind people and douche bags"
I'm a douchebag who almost always wears sunglasses inside, so certainly I'm not going to take them off for the poker table. As far as tells go I don't think it matters one way or the other as far as the glasses are concerned. If wearing sunglasses makes even 1 person at the table think your a donkey though and inspires them to play at you, it could be worth it!
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07-07-2014 , 11:36 PM
I almost never wear sunglasses at a table.

when I do it's ether the lights in the casino/place is bothering my eyes or I need to relax my eyes a little bit.


There is a few tables at Foxwoods that sometimes the sun will shine just right into the skylight that makes wearing sunglasses needed
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07-08-2014 , 06:57 AM
Lame, obviously.

I personally love it when I sit at a low stakes game(1/2, 2/5) and I see one or more people at the table wearing sunglasses. I do a little happy dance inside because I know I am going to have a profitable session. In my experience the people wearing sunglasses are so horrible I almost think it is a level. Someone said earlier in this thread that they have yet to see a skilled player wearing sunglasses at the table and I agree 100%.
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07-09-2014 , 04:52 PM
OK I personally think they are somewhat silly, particularly at low stakes, but statements like this:

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Originally Posted by fun101
I have yet to see a skilled player who were sunglasses.
are just ridiculous.
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07-09-2014 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mark32607
....they have yet to see a skilled player wearing sunglasses at the table...
Well, I have seen some, but they're definitely rare.
IMO, sunglasses may be an advantage for a few people, but they always look lame, even if the player is good. (But if you feel they help you somehow, go ahead...) ---->
I don't wear them, but I have no qualms about studying other people at the table (even if they're studying back).
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07-10-2014 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
I'm reminded of an old adage

"There are two types of people who wear sunglasses indoors, blind people and douche bags"
Blind douche bags go without sunglasses and make you look at their creepy eyes. F those guys!
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07-10-2014 , 02:02 PM
whatever makes you feel good

personally I wouldn't wear it in a regular local casino game...
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07-10-2014 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by railgun
personally I wouldn't wear it in a regular local casino game...
In your case, I would suggest Oakleys
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07-10-2014 , 02:50 PM
Only real.reason to wear sunglasses is to watch for players exposing their hand without being obvious. Plus ev but somewhat morally reprehensible.
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07-10-2014 , 06:02 PM
Ive always sensed obvious weakness in young players who feel the need to wear sunglasses ..A lack of confidence leads to the need to hide from me.
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07-10-2014 , 06:07 PM
I sat next to a young kid once where he was wearing those contact lenses that give you alien looking eyeballs. I remember thinking that it was actually a pretty cool alternative to sunglasses, in that you don't see everything darkly, yet your eyes are still essentially covered. It was really weird. People at the table kept telling him how it was creepin' them out. Probably not worth the infected eyes you end up with, but it was still kind of neat to see.
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07-11-2014 , 12:39 AM
It is an advantage in the sense that you can be seen as a donkey, yet pay attention to everything. No one has a clue you are paying attention to every move they make. If people want to label me as bad then so be it. Can't possibly be a bad thing.
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07-11-2014 , 06:53 AM
I saw a guy wearing sunglasses playing quarter bj at Caesars this weekend, the dealer could not get a read on him, so they must work....
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07-11-2014 , 11:01 AM
I wore my prescription sunglasses into the casino once. Frankly I didnt even realize I still had them on until I walked inside. Feeling too lazy to walk back to my car, I kept the sunglasses figuring I would get my glasses later. My lord it was fantastic. It titled the heck out of people.

I guess I kept taking them off b/c who the f wants to wear sunglasses inside and I am not that blind (yet). But I would put them on to read the board. People thought I was crazy or something. People were saying stuff like I only put them on for this or that or why you are taking them off now. Blah blah. I kept quiet about it - which itself I think titled people - and racked up 2 BIs in the process. Definitely may try again.
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07-11-2014 , 12:24 PM
I'll add that there's a disadvantage in drawing attention to yourself. Notice how everyone has views/reads they make about sunglass wearers right away. To me, it's one piece of a puzzle, but I'm thinking a bit more about a sunglass wearer as soon as he sits down. It's easy to keep mental notes on him. You're better off just being some random guy.
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07-11-2014 , 12:29 PM
I put asking for a wash or setup in the same class as wearing sunglasses. People do what they have to for a perceived mental edge.
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07-11-2014 , 05:23 PM
i think its mental to the person wearing or not wearing the shades
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