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06-06-2014 , 02:03 PM
Thanks a lot Raye I look forward to following this & eventually hitting the tables!
06-06-2014 , 06:13 PM
What are the limits being requested on bigger games?
06-06-2014 , 10:24 PM
Thanks for the info and please keep posting. It's refreshing to hear that player input is being considered instead of the usual casino knows what's best mentality.
06-08-2014 , 11:51 AM
i wonder if they'll cap the 2/5 buyin at 500 like at the borgata.
06-10-2014 , 07:45 PM
When will applications be available for jobs at the poker room? Thanks
06-11-2014 , 11:44 AM
I guess the poker room opening timing comes down to today. live stream link.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/ph...oker_room.html
06-11-2014 , 11:45 AM
At 11:11 am this morning in Harrisburg PGCB gave us the approval to proceed with building the poker room. YEEEEAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
06-11-2014 , 11:51 AM
Approved!! Opening target September

http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...oker_room.html
06-11-2014 , 11:52 AM
Now we can order tables, chairs, etc. and post for the positions for the poker room. You should be able to see all the positions on-line at our website. I submitted for every game/limit even if we may not spread them. So my question to veteran is what game limit to you play. Let me know-I'll make sure we have or will submit to spread it. At the moment 2/5 No Limit is capped at $500 max buy in. If the players decide they would like to see that changed or amended we certainly will do that. We can have it approved with different maximums and let you decide. Thank-you. I completely appreciate your input.
06-11-2014 , 11:53 AM
Opening the first or second week of September!
06-11-2014 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Raye
Opening the first or second week of September!
Congratulations on the approval. I'm sure you were holding your breath considering what happened earlier this year.
06-11-2014 , 12:21 PM
Sugarhouse was approved today and will open first or second week of September 2014 with 24 tables.

SugarHouse gets state OK

Quote:
The Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board on Wednesday approved SugarHouse Casino's proposal to operate a temporary poker room while a $164 million casino expansion is under construction at the Fishtown facility.

The 7,350-square-foot temporary facility with 24 poker tables is expected to open in late August or early September and operate for at least 13 months.
06-11-2014 , 12:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raye
Now we can order tables, chairs, etc. and post for the positions for the poker room. You should be able to see all the positions on-line at our website. I submitted for every game/limit even if we may not spread them. So my question to veteran is what game limit to you play. Let me know-I'll make sure we have or will submit to spread it. At the moment 2/5 No Limit is capped at $500 max buy in. If the players decide they would like to see that changed or amended we certainly will do that. We can have it approved with different maximums and let you decide. Thank-you. I completely appreciate your input.
This is great news and I want to thank you for the work you've done and for the communication you have had with the community in this forum.

While the $500 max is no problem maybe have a deep stack as well?
06-11-2014 , 12:47 PM
HYPE thread indicates that they'll spread any game/limit players are interested in playing and will have something in the way of daily tournaments. Again, likely to be decided by player input. The room director is up and running on here as well.

I'm very excited about this room for a couple reasons. One, they aren't a huge corporate conglomerate so the room director can likely make changes as needed without too much interference from above. Second, its location...right along the river on the eastern side of (slightly north) Center City will bring in a crazy mix of college students, tourists, conventioneers, drug dealers and hipsters.

Should be a wild ride for the first year or so. Looking forward to it!

SugarHouse Casino
1001 N Delaware Ave (map)
Philadelphia, PA 19125
06-11-2014 , 01:03 PM
Now that the Sugarhouse poker room is no longer hype and is officially an entity, I've started a thread in the Venue forum.

Sugarhouse Casino (Philadelphia, PA)

Congratulations and good luck!
06-11-2014 , 03:25 PM
Great news. Can't believe this actually happened after hearing about it for years. I'm pumped.
06-11-2014 , 10:38 PM
I think they closed the wrong thread. LOL The hype thread is still open but the above link for the SUGARHOUSE Venue thread is CLOSED.
06-12-2014 , 07:00 AM
Sounds like the right thread got closed to me. How can there be a venue thread when there is no venue, yet?

A venue is planned. A venue is expected to open. At that point, I'm sure that the mods will be happy to have a venue thread. But until then - please see Parx, Maryland Live!, Harrah's Chester (now Philadelphia), etc. for similar cases. All of which, if my memory is correct, were handled this way.

Lee
06-12-2014 , 09:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raye
Now we can order tables, chairs, etc. and post for the positions for the poker room. You should be able to see all the positions on-line at our website. I submitted for every game/limit even if we may not spread them. So my question to veteran is what game limit to you play. Let me know-I'll make sure we have or will submit to spread it. At the moment 2/5 No Limit is capped at $500 max buy in. If the players decide they would like to see that changed or amended we certainly will do that. We can have it approved with different maximums and let you decide. Thank-you. I completely appreciate your input.
Thanks for the updates, Raye!

I think most 2/5 players would prefer a 300-1000 spread, or at least a 200bb (1000) cap. Will this be a rake, or time game? It would be great to have the best of both worlds and have a 1000 cap with 5/time.

While 500 seems OK, it would be preferable to have 1000 so that deepstack plays with a larger cap (2500), rather than the current situation at the Borgata (deep = 1000).

FWIW here's my games/limits:

NLHE
1/3 100-500
2/5 200-1000
2/5 deep 500-2500 (100bb min game a room essential, IMHO)

1/2 PLO deep 300-1000, 5/time, 5-bring-in
10/20 HE, Stud, O/E (half-kill)

Big O, PLO Hi-Lo, Razz etc for standalone or mix games would be great to have pre-approved as well...
06-12-2014 , 09:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scelsi
Thanks for the updates, Raye!

I think most 2/5 players would prefer a 300-1000 spread, or at least a 200bb (1000) cap. Will this be a rake, or time game? It would be great to have the best of both worlds and have a 1000 cap with 5/time.

1/2 PLO should be 200 min/500 max.

While 500 seems OK, it would be preferable to have 1000 so that deepstack plays with a larger cap (2500), rather than the current situation at the Borgata (deep = 1000).

FWIW here's my games/limits:

NLHE
1/3 100-500
2/5 200-1000
2/5 deep 500-2500 (100bb min game a room essential, IMHO)

1/2 PLO deep 300-1000, 5/time, 5-bring-in
10/20 HE, Stud, O/E (half-kill)

Big O, PLO Hi-Lo, Razz etc for standalone or mix games would be great to have pre-approved as well...
FWIW this is incorrect re most players preferring deep buy-ins. Good players prefer deep buy-ins. Bad players prefer shallow buy-ins and are intimidated by deep games. Most players aren't good. Therefore most players prefer not to play in deep games.

Also, the venue thread was closed because cards aren't in the air yet. Once that happens, anyone here should feel free to create a venue thread with a strong OP containing as much publicly available information as possible and hopefully input from Raye if he's an advertising rep by then.
06-12-2014 , 11:39 AM
I prefer the 2/5 capped at 500 but i know most people won't like it.
06-12-2014 , 11:44 AM
I agree with this assessment. A few strong players arguing for a higher limit on 2/5 games at Harrah's in AC (and successfully getting the buyins changed from a 500 max to a 1000 max) helped kill it, in my opinion. Certainly, it was never the same after that happened.

One problem? With the higher buyins, the less skilled players run out of money sooner, and then they aren't playing at all.

As for wanting things ike "Big O, PLO HI-Lo, Razz, etc." - most players don't even know what they are, let alone are willing to play them. Certainly can't hurt to have them included in the approved list (along with every other variation of poker one can think of) but really won't matter much, at least at lower levels.

The overwhelming number of people looking to play poker at Sugarhouse are going to be looking for 1/2NL - or 1/3NL, 2/5NL, and - maybe - a little bit of games such as stud, omaha, and PLO. The first 2 might well generate interest in high-low versions. Enough to actually warrant opening a table. The last, if it goes off at all, will simply be high only.

Check with other casinos in the area (simply look at Bravo) and learn what's actually being played.

Plus, with only 25 or so tables to begin with - the place will be swamped with NL players.

Lee

Lee
06-12-2014 , 04:57 PM
how about a 750 cap for the 2/5 game. But i'd say start off with 500 cap and enough of the regulars complain then up to 1k after a month or so.
06-12-2014 , 08:02 PM
Isn't Parx the only successful poker room in the NE/mid-Atlantic that has a 1k cap on 2/5? I'd imagine if they thought it were more popular or better for the long-term health of the game, rooms like the Borgata, Maryland Live, Foxwoods, etc. would have a 1k cap.
06-12-2014 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
Isn't Parx the only successful poker room in the NE/mid-Atlantic that has a 1k cap on 2/5? I'd imagine if they thought it were more popular or better for the long-term health of the game, rooms like the Borgata, Maryland Live, Foxwoods, etc. would have a 1k cap.
Parx is successful because of their location and their service is better than anybody in the area besides the Borgata.

      
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