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Should I confront rude players? Should I confront rude players?

01-26-2015 , 06:47 PM
Was playing in a soft 1/3 game in a casino over the weekend. Besides the fact that it was a very profitable lineup, it was also a fun sociable crew. Getting into the wee hours of the morning a new kid (25-30 year old kid relative to me) sits down. Along with the wannabe poker costume of dre head set etc, he is also wearing his attitude for all to see.

Mostly he is quiet listening to his music. After about 45 minutes he scoops a nice pot while also criticizing a rec fish's play. This titled me, but I only responded by saying "sir it is considered rude and against the rules to complain while raking in a pot". Kid didn't respond to me.

Later on he takes a beat from nice rec lady for the second time. He then proceeds to go on about how bad she played, calling with xx out of position to his 3bet etc. I'm sitting close to him, so try to say something along the lines of don't tap the glass in a way that no one else will notice. That didn't help.

Later on he was at it again after taking a beat. This time I confronted him directly about being rude and that it was completely unnecessary and that he was making a fool of himself. He responded that he hardly ever plays this, his usual game is 2/5. I suggested he leave this kiddie pool and head back over to the big boy game where people will be more respectfully giving him their chips. This at least shut him up until he left the game.

How do you all handle asshats like that?

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01-26-2015 , 06:52 PM
I think you handled it fine. I tend to respond in similar ways, since it similarly tilts me to have people act like douches at the table.
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01-26-2015 , 06:52 PM
Rude is rude. Politely tell the jerk to take his act elsewhere.

"Tapping the glass" has nothing to do with it, unless you are fine with someone being rude to an OMC or pro that isn't a profit source for you.
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01-26-2015 , 07:00 PM
Those fake pro types are the absolute worst. They can destroy the complexion of a good game in 1.5 orbits.

I try to talk about anything other than poker to steer the mood back in the right direction.
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01-26-2015 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle

"Tapping the glass" has nothing to do with it.
Agree. Goal was to have him think not being a jerk was in his best self interest.

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01-26-2015 , 07:10 PM
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Mostly he is quiet listening to his music. After about 45 minutes he scoops a nice pot while also criticizing a rec fish's play. This titled me, but I only responded by saying "sir it is considered rude and against the rules to complain while raking in a pot". Kid didn't respond to me.
Never heard of any such thing in my entire life. There's a rule against complaining? How could something so ambiguous be enforced, anyway?

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Later on he was at it again after taking a beat. This time I confronted him directly about being rude and that it was completely unnecessary and that he was making a fool of himself. He responded that he hardly ever plays this, his usual game is 2/5. I suggested he leave this kiddie pool and head back over to the big boy game where people will be more respectfully giving him their chips. This at least shut him up until he left the game
Someone is rude and childish, so you teach them a lesson by being rude and childish right back. Well done.

Seriously, you'd be better off minding your business. The offended parties were presumably grown adults; they could've fended for themselves by commenting back if they wished.
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01-26-2015 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Never heard of any such thing in my entire life. There's a rule against complaining?
My god. It was a joke. He was trying to lighten the mood and let the guy know to stfu without actuall saying hey stfu.
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01-26-2015 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Suit
My god. It was a joke. He was trying to lighten the mood and let the guy know to stfu without actuall saying hey stfu.
Yes this.

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01-26-2015 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Never heard of any such thing in my entire life. There's a rule against complaining? How could something so ambiguous be enforced, anyway?



Someone is rude and childish, so you teach them a lesson by being rude and childish right back. Well done.
Sitting in a restaurant waiting for my dinner while reading this. Now everyone is looking at me wondering why I'm laughing so much.

Are you trolling?

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01-26-2015 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Someone is rude and childish, so you teach them a lesson by being rude and childish right back. Well done.
OP wasn't being rude or childish. At all.
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Seriously, you'd be better off minding your business. The offended parties were presumably grown adults; they could've fended for themselves by commenting back if they wished.
A lot of casual players are already horrified at the table - when someone they perceive a "pro" starts pooping all over them (especially if said "pro" is wearing a poker pro costume), they usually just sit there and take it.

I bet the other players appreciated the OP chiming in.

Based on your reaction to the OP, I'm going to assume you don't take bad beats in stride and say passive-aggressive sh*t under your breath when a weaker player rakes your chips.

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01-26-2015 , 08:26 PM
"Floor! This guys being a real ass-hat, is his $2/5 seat open yet?"

Maybe this isn't the way to go for some, but for me, yeah I could get away with it especially if it's not said too loudly but more in a sarcastic tone. I bet it would shut him up. Or make him leave. But w/e road you chose, do what feels right. I sometimes mind my own business, it depends if I know the person can stick up for themselves but if it's said to a female, however, or to a dealer who might have a harder time defending themselves?...Then I am more likely to step up right away.
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01-26-2015 , 09:24 PM
Yes rude players should be confronted. Saying nothing just encourages them to continue with their behavior. And a lot of times other players are afraid to speak up.

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Someone is rude and childish, so you teach them a lesson by being rude and childish right back. Well done.
This totally misses the point of responding to these people.

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Seriously, you'd be better off minding your business. The offended parties were presumably grown adults; they could've fended for themselves by commenting back if they wished.
It absolutely is his business. It wouldn't matter if I was a pro or a fish that's just there to have fun. If someone keeps acting like a jerk and it could affect the mood at the table, then I would have a problem with that.

And the fact that the offended parties were adults doesn't mean they could confidently fend for themselves. The wannabe pro probably does know much more about the game than the fish do, and as a result will have a major advantage when he has an argument about poker at the table.
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01-27-2015 , 09:46 AM
On the other hand, if some young jerks rude behavior tilts you off your game , maybe that was what he was trying to do in the first place. Usually it is likely he is just an asshat but it could be a ploy.
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01-27-2015 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Never heard of any such thing in my entire life. There's a rule against complaining? How could something so ambiguous be enforced, anyway?



Someone is rude and childish, so you teach them a lesson by being rude and childish right back. Well done.

Seriously, you'd be better off minding your business. The offended parties were presumably grown adults; they could've fended for themselves by commenting back if they wished.
You sir are an ........

12K+ posts and you still don't know what is in the best interest for a game/table?
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01-27-2015 , 01:37 PM
My rule with this sort of thing is to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted. If the kid's target is unfazed or has seen it all (or is giving it right back!), do nothing. If the kid's target is visibly uncomfortable, act immediately. Call the floor. Needle him. Ask the dealer about house rules against abusive behavior.

No one is playing 1/3 because it's their job. You're trying to have fun. Don't let someone bully others out of their fun.
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01-27-2015 , 02:23 PM
2Out might be douching it up, but I've seen some "fish" as you guys like to say that are "helpless" etc., that have cut a jerk to absolute shreds after getting tired of listening to them. People don't need as many white nights as you guys think they do, and it potentially can be insulting and offensive to the person being berated.

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01-27-2015 , 02:55 PM
table change.
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01-27-2015 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ZippyThePinhead
Sitting in a restaurant waiting for my dinner while reading this. Now everyone is looking at me wondering why I'm laughing so much.

Are you trolling?

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Noone is looking, it's all in your head .

By the way, there is a setting in your phone to disable the 'Sent from my ...' spam text .
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01-27-2015 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ZippyThePinhead
Sitting in a restaurant waiting for my dinner while reading this. Now everyone is looking at me wondering why I'm laughing so much.

Are you trolling?

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No, I'm not trolling, I've posted on this site for over six years now, with 12K posts. I didn't join here in 2008 with the intention of posting at fairly high volume on a number of subjects, biding my time until you showed up with your laughable thread so I could "troll" you.

I'm 100% correct here. You aren't.
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01-27-2015 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy
OP wasn't being rude or childish. At all.

A lot of casual players are already horrified at the table - when someone they perceive a "pro" starts pooping all over them (especially if said "pro" is wearing a poker pro costume), they usually just sit there and take it.

I bet the other players appreciated the OP chiming in.

Based on your reaction to the OP, I'm going to assume you don't take bad beats in stride and say passive-aggressive sh*t under your breath when a weaker player rakes your chips.
You assume completely wrong.

He was being rude and childish.

I could've predicted this idiotic, stock response from 2p2 before I even posted the first time. Been through this discussion many, many times, and you guys fire off the same brain-dead responses each and every one of them.
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01-27-2015 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
People don't need as many white knights as you guys think they do
+1

Leaning over and whispering to the douchebag is super transparent and just as offensive.

Just make blanket statements out loud, e.g., "How much for the lessons?" Everyone gets a laugh and hopefully the target gets the hint.

But if he doesn't, it's not a huge deal. People here are overworried that people will actually learn. They won't. Nobody likes taking unsolicited advice from a jerk. The biggest fear should be that the guy who would have ordered shots and played 40/30 decides that it would be more fun to stack the jerk by playing TAG.
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01-27-2015 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace upmy Slv
You sir are an ........

12K+ posts and you still don't know what is in the best interest for a game/table?
Actually, I do. The guy's "rude" comments had zero effect on this table whatsoever, I can guarantee you that.
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01-27-2015 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
2Out might be douching it up, but I've seen some "fish" as you guys like to say that are "helpless" etc., that have cut an ass**** to absolute shreds after getting tired of listening to them. People don't need as many white nights as you guys think they do, and it potentially can be insulting and offensive to the person being berated.
If by "douching it up", you mean "posting a 100% accurate and fair POV", yes, that's correct.
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01-27-2015 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
The guy's "rude" comments had zero effect on this table whatsoever, I can guarantee you that.
100% wrong. He made the game less fun while he was there.

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01-27-2015 , 05:54 PM
I've see fish get up and leave after being berated by these guys. How would that not affect the table? Also, a few years ago I know I would have played more nitty against someone like that because I didn't want to get embarrassed and criticized in front of everyone.
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