Revel Poker, Atlantic City Poker hype thread

[fling85]

From dealing 2 hands, they are able to see your agility skills, chip counting, and table running skills. No need for them to see 1500 applicants dealing 20 hands per person.

The personality is a important distinction between a Good dealer and a Bad dealer for those who passed the initial dealing test.

I agree that if you are a young good looking female with bubbling personality who also can deal, you will be first hired.

For those men who are over age of 50, maybe you should be applying Tropicana. There seem to be a bunch of them.

[fling85]

Originally Posted by $won_twiceAsSweet

Wow a non-smoking Casino ??? thats pretty drastic.!! I hate cigarette smoke as much as anyone but smokers are generally compulsive people .....most smokers gamble and most gamblers smoke...how does that not put them at a disadvantage to other props for gaming???

I agree with you. Not sure what they are thinking. If I have to go outside of casino to light up a cig. with 50 people surround two ash trays, it will not earn my business there.

I might be able to deal with multiple smoking rooms around various parts of casino with nice TVs and chairs.

Hey I am a smoker and a gambler and all other 11 casinos have smoking areas.

Hope its not a complete smoke free building.

[pokerjoker570]

Originally Posted by racecar

ive been dealing at in ac for last 4 years and i went to a dealer audition for Revel today.And i must say im not happy.Of course the question of how many tables was asked and the official number is 37.So going in to audition/interview there were about 15 or so dealersv in my time slot.I figure were gonna deal 5 hands of holdem,then plo and omaha 8ob,boy was i wrong.Before it started several floor supervisors and big wigs introduced themselves and said they knew we all could deal so it was all about ''personality''.They said there gonna hire about 150 ft and pt dealers and recieved about 1000 applications.About half of us went to the tables and the other half stayed in a seperate room for a group ''interview''.I sat at a table and they said your each gonna deal 2 hands of hold em,right then i was pissed.After the very informal dealing part of audition we then switched with other dealers and went for the group interview.Basically they throw out a question not related to poker and then whoever wants to speak can speak,we all take turns.Some people hardly said anything,i tried to be more vocal and come up with some answers to show off my ''personality''.After about 5 questions it was over.Can someone tell me how the hell you hire dealers this way.I mean dealing 2 hands of holdem for an audition,cmon.And all the answers givin in the interview were all in the same ballpark,trying to be politically correct and showing fake personalities to score points.If this is how you get hired how do you seperate the canidates,you mine as well take the 1000 applicants names,put them in a hat and just pick 150.To me this is not going to be a serious room.The actual job as dealer and how good you are is not relevant.I can deal around 20 hands per hr depending on how fast the action is going,of course revel will never know it,nor do they care by having only a 2 hand audition.All players care about is getting dealt hands fast and accurate,they could care less is some dealer has bubbly personality.The problem is the people doing the hiring have no clue about poker and the what the players want.I could be left out in the cold in favor of some moron who deals 9 hands per hr that the players dont even want based on this hiring process,what a joke.All they did was stress personality,and what keeps the customer coming back.Well when you hire based on nothing to do with actual dealing you will wind up with slow dealers and the customer will go elsewhere,makes no sense.I know i would get hired if it was a dealing audition based on actuall dealing,but this bs hiring process might skrew me out of a job i was looking foward to for months,what a joke.

Ok so 1000 people applied for poker dealer. Im guessing most of them have experience so it really makes no sense for the HR team to watch 1000 dealers audition for a job that based on their resume they can obviously do. However, you cant tell a persons personality by whats on a resume. Just about every casino opening now does this. Nobody really cares how good of a dealer you are, what they care about is you being a douche bag and not conforming to their policies and procedures. An average dealer with a great personality is way better than a great dealer with a poor personality. Your frustration in this process only shows your inexperience in the casino business.

[ACBorgataKevin]

As a current Borgata poker dealer, hearing the information regarding the dealer auditions and hiring process at Revel makes it look like the Borgata is going to continue being the #1 poker room in Atlantic City.

Stories from other dealers who went to the auditions (similar to the post above):

- Unconcerned about dealer skill, knowledge, experience.

- Concerned about dealer personality.

- Concerned about dealer age/attractiveness.

I was told that most people in their their 30s were essentially ignored, while dealers with low skill but pretty/handsome were sent on to the next phase of the hiring process.

Personality DOES count as a dealer. We must be pleasant and polite, and in some games, we need to be fun and entertaining. Dealer skill and mechanics matter MUCH more, however. The 1/2nl crowd might be satisfied with a pretty little airhead that puts out 8 hands a half-hour, but she will get chewed up in a big game.

I personally am skilled in pitching and running a game and when I come to a table following someone who isn't, the table thanks me and breathes a collective sigh of relief. It doesn't matter what that person looks like.

If Revel wants to be anything more than a niche casino, I think they need to be a lot more concerned with the ability and merit of their dealers rather than the way they look or their age.

As a loyal Borgata employee, I'm glad Revel is going with this strategy because it means they'll likely fail in their poker room. As a player, I'm disheartened because I enjoy high limit hold'em and I can't play it in Atlantic City because the only place that has it is my place of employment.

Personally I'd rather look at a Victoria's Secret magazine and have the ugliest and quietest but fastest and most accurate poker dealer dealing to me, if I really have the need to look at someone sexy while I'm playing.

[ACBorgataKevin]

Originally Posted by pokerjoker570

Nobody really cares how good of a dealer you are, what they care about is you being a douche bag and not conforming to their policies and procedures. An average dealer with a great personality is way better than a great dealer with a poor personality. Your frustration in this process only shows your inexperience in the casino business.

I highly disagree with this in any game except the varying 1/2 and low limit games.

I have no personality (I don't talk while I'm dealing unless talked to) but I deal fast and accurately. Wouldn't you rather have me at your table, handling your money, than someone less competent, but pretty and bubbly?

Keep in mind I'm not talking about screwballs who are rude or arrogant. A BAD personality is as bad as poor mechanics and Atlantic City has a lot of dealers with bad personalities.

I guarantee you that all of the thought and effort that goes into this 'great personality' is taking a toll on speed and accuracy of the game. Mistakes will be made and efficiency will be sacrificed if the dealer is engaged in conversation the entire time.

Keep in mind that people are winning and losing at the table. Those people losing might not want to hear a dealer chattering away, and it's our job to cater to people that are losing, too. What's the solution? A smiling, polite dealer, who talks briefly and focuses their effort on the game.

[midas]

Originally Posted by ACBorgataKevin

I highly disagree with this in any game except the varying 1/2 and low limit games.

I have no personality (I don't talk while I'm dealing unless talked to) but I deal fast and accurately. Wouldn't you rather have me at your table, handling your money, than someone less competent, but pretty and bubbly?

Keep in mind I'm not talking about screwballs who are rude or arrogant. A BAD personality is as bad as poor mechanics and Atlantic City has a lot of dealers with bad personalities.

I guarantee you that all of the thought and effort that goes into this 'great personality' is taking a toll on speed and accuracy of the game. Mistakes will be made and efficiency will be sacrificed if the dealer is engaged in conversation the entire time.

Keep in mind that people are winning and losing at the table. Those people losing might not want to hear a dealer chattering away, and it's our job to cater to people that are losing, too. What's the solution? A smiling, polite dealer, who talks briefly and focuses their effort on the game.

I don't think Revel is trying to compete with the Borgata directly. I think they will try to win the number 2 slot and own the casual summer and weekend players. The weekend and summer fish will all be at the Revel and then the Borgata regs will follow. They will probably only take a bite at the weekday crowd with a super lux room, free food and tournaments. I mean poker regs are an odd bunch they still play at dumps like Taj even when Borgata exists.

[p0k3rhack3r]

Originally Posted by ACBorgataKevin

Keep in mind that people are winning and losing at the table. Those people losing might not want to hear a dealer chattering away, and it's our job to cater to people that are losing, too. What's the solution? A smiling, polite dealer, who talks briefly and focuses their effort on the game.

This is certainly true. As a serious player beauty is not really a larger consideration. Who wants to be distracted? Oh yeah. Maybe I want the fish to be....

[fling85]

They are not just going to hire a pretty face that can not deal. It is currently so hard to obtain a part time poker dealer position in AC not to mention a full time position. There are over 200 dealers in Borgata that are just stand-by. (not even part-time) Even Tropicana is not hiring full-time dealers.

The initial 2 hands will let an experienced manager see if that person is good enough to deal. The rest will depend on personality. I think there are lots Asian dealers that are not fluent in English and the management needs to see that as a potential problem.

I also heard that if you are hired as full-time in Revel, the contract is still short-term as they want to have the power to replace you and not get sued for it.

I think the more important question is how the Revel waitress uniform will be like in the poker room. I hope they will follow Parx's model and hire 20 year old babes that wear super tight shorts.

Revel will be the #2 room in AC. It will take business away from Taj, Caesars, Bally and Tropicana. Cant wait till May..

[racecar]

2 days after my audition and im still trying to figure it out.I mean if they got 1000 applicants im sure there were some who knew that revel was going to be hiring so they quickely went to dealers school just to apply at revel,how many i dont know.But even experienced dealers does not mean good dealers,that is why its fustrating your actuall dealing ability does not matter.And if its all about personality dealing 2 hands is not even enough time to show that either.Before we did anything they stressed how its all about personality,like 3 times.The problem with doing that is now everyone is going to try and ham it up.You would think if it was all about personality they wouldnt tell you,lol.This way you get to see someones natural personality and you know what your seeing is real,not just a show because you allready stressed thats what its all about.I mean knowing that before hand everyones gonna try to be mr.personality.Something tells me their is an underlying reason on how they hire,it may just be soley on looks and age.And another post said a slow dealer with a great personality is better than a fast one with a bad personality,what a joke.What about any game higher than 1-2,where you pay time.You pay 5 bucks every half hour regardless of how many hands you see,would you rather pay 5 dollars for 9 hands or 21 hands.And if you keep getting slow dealers theres goes another 5,and another,and another.What player wants that?

[413AceKing]

If you deal like you type, it's probably a good thing for the players that you won't be dealing there.
Please use paragraphs and spaces between sentences.

[AC Sandman]

Just found out some actual disturbing news. Why did I just hear about this?

Former Caesars poker dealer who had been working as a Poker Shift Manager at Harrahs the past year or so has been hired by Revel to lead hiring and running the Revel Poker Room.

I was told that the Harrah's Execs on down were glad to see the Manager leave and now that this person runs Revel poker? Revel will be stunning, but predict a flop in poker.

[thatsnotplusev]

Uhh Ohh.. Not gonna name names, but I think I know who you're talking about, and yeah that would not be a good move by Revel...

[pusoydos]

1-2 hands is not enough to find out if a dealer is good or not. Specially if they are just dealing Hold'em, what happens when they deal Omaha or Stud. A good personality is not enough to be a poker dealer. You need speed and accuracy, specially in rake games, the more hands a dealers deals the more monies the house makes. In time games you will just piss off a lot of players if the dealer is slow, they want to get as many hands as they can. This audition process they are doing is totally out of the ordinary. Good luck to them though, I hope this room doesn't flop.

[StackerBA]

Originally Posted by AC Sandman

Just found out some actual disturbing news. Why did I just hear about this?

Former Caesars poker dealer who had been working as a Poker Shift Manager at Harrahs the past year or so has been hired by Revel to lead hiring and running the Revel Poker Room.

I was told that the Harrah's Execs on down were glad to see the Manager leave and now that this person runs Revel poker? Revel will be stunning, but predict a flop in poker.

This is 1000x worse news if true than any of the rumors about the interview process.

[NickMPK]

It seems like it would take a good Holdem dealer a very short time to learn to become a good Omaha dealer, and an only slightly longer time to become a good stud dealer. So I dont know why you would refrain from hiring a dealer whose mechanics and game management were otherwise excellent just because they had not yet dealt a specific game.