Hadn't thought of that.

Foxwoods requires a players card or at least a driver's license for every participant in their tournaments. Cash games is a different story (no player card is necessary). Not really relevant for OP because the MGM at Foxwoods has no poker ...

This happened at Canterbury park about two months ago. . Instead of 18k he got sent to jail for trespassing

Supposedly this happpened at Canterbury Park but I don't know if I believe it. A dealer confirmed the story but still...

After reading the responses in this thread, I don't hold out much hope for OP.

I've worked in the Executive levels of big corporations and I can tell you that there isn't an executive alive that will "risk" the liability by allowing OP to retract his lifetime self exclusion ban.

I guess I didn't know how big a deal that ban was, but after reading all the replies, its clear its a pretty big intercoursing deal.

The only possible slim chance I can think of is for OP to "somehow" get a court order saying its okay and that the casino will not be held liable. Or perhaps a court order that says something to the effect that poker is okay.

how OP would go about getting an actual court order is beyond me, but imo, that is the level at which he could retract the ban.

Again, if OP somehow resolves this, I'd love it if he came back and updated this thread a few months from now.,

Well, from a CYA standpoint, if I were a casino corporation, if you ever self-excluded yourself, anywhere, for any length of time, I would bar you for life.

I mean, what is the difference between self-excluding yourself for 5 years and for life? Somehow you are "cured" after 5 years in the first instance but not in the second?

In the first case, this thread doesn't happen.

In the second case, it did.

I see a big difference, yes. I do believe people can mature and gain more self-control. A 22yo being stupid, who figures out when he drinks he blows his paycheck, but who isn't ready to stop drinking might self-exclude for 5 or 10 years. 15 years later he has a wife, three kids, hasn't had a drop in 10 years, and doesn't even resemble the binge-drinking kid that got in trouble nearly a generation ago. I think we can let him walk into a casino again.

Addiction isn't about maturity.

He signed a 10 year self exclusion at age 22.
His twin brother signed a lifetime exclusion at age 22.

They are both 37 now, wife, etc.

You are afraid of a lawsuit should you allow one twin (lifetime self-exclusion) to gamble, but not afraid to let the other twin play?

"You honor, the Plaintiff should have known that signing a 10 year self-exclusion was an admission of a serious and what most addiction experts would consider a incurable problem and so, should have never let Jamie play high stakes poker."

Not everyone who does a self-exclusion buys into the AA/GA mumbo jumbo.

Self exclusion means different things in different states. One place I worked had self limitation which meant no ads in the mail, no comps, and no check cashing.

Then don't self exclude. If you are really not "addicted" and are in control of your own actions and can be trusted to be a recreational gambler, then you have no one to blame for having made the decision to self exclude. Sort of a little Catch-22, but since the Casinos bear the Liability, I don't blame them for enforcing the self exclusion. Private (but regulated) business. You have no "Right" to gamble. Go find another recreation.

I think every few posts, the original reason I posted this is getting lost so I'm going to review for the benefit of those watching at home....

1. I Self Excluded through the NJCCC and did choose a lifetime exclusion. I would LOVE to change that back, but obviously I made that decision and am willing to live with it.

2. In 2010, I attended a conference/recruiting expo at Caesars, in which I not only was given a new players card, but gambled there, Harrah's, Bally's, IP and other places not associated with CET.

3. Called to make reservations in 2011 and told that I was banned. I explained it should just be in NJ and told I could make reservations for Las Vegas. I did, but we never went due to family issues that came up.

4. Went to Harrah's New Orleans and they said nothing they could do. They gave me a paper which I signed to ask for reconsideration outside NJ. Haven't and not expecting to hear anything back.

5. Came here looking for advice, pretty much determined that trying to get CET to reverse their decision is not going to happen, it would be an immense waste of time.

6. Hoping that next time I go to Biloxi or Vegas, places like the Beau, Venetian, MGM, Wynn, etc.... don't say the same thing that CET is saying, but if I'm SOL, I'm SOL I guess.

Hope this clarifies any misunderstandings of the original message.

I want to emphasize something. Making self exclusion stick is not just about cynical liability concerns.

Actual addicts fall off the wagon sometimes. And for self exclusion to mean anything, the casino can't reverse it when the person comes back in.

That, and not liability, is why self exclusion has to be binding.

It sucks to be you. But this is a policy that casinos can't start making exceptions to without rendering it ineffective.