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Old 07-02-2012, 03:12 PM   #31
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Re: Poker etiquette question

Anyway I am writing letters of apology to everybody who was at the table and some other people who I have gotten into it with and I will be bringing them with until I hand them all out.

I am also going to talk to the floor managers and dealers and set up a system where every time I say anything at the table regarding poker/religion/politics then I will throw a dealer a 5 dollar chip.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:40 PM   #32
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Anyway I am writing letters of apology to everybody who was at the table and some other people who I have gotten into it with and I will be bringing them with until I hand them all out.

I am also going to talk to the floor managers and dealers and set up a system where every time I say anything at the table regarding poker/religion/politics then I will throw a dealer a 5 dollar chip.
1) This started by him basically berating you for (what he claims) bad play. He breached etiquette first. You don't need to respond in kind obviously, but this guy can't act like a douche and then complain about you being a douche. Both are wrong but more so him for starting it all IMO.

2) You learned that "GG" and "NH" are not interchangeable.

3) You got really creepy with the Facebook stalking and apology letters. That's just weird IMO.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:49 PM   #33
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So no letters? I need advice here.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:02 PM   #34
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Hire a scrivener to write your letters in calligraphy, then see if you can find a singing clown (or perhaps a 20s flapper) process server to hand-deliver them to your recipients for you.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:05 PM   #35
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lol i'll have them notorized as well. I mean is an apology at the table enough?
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:52 PM   #36
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Someone I don't even know on facebook just sent me a long, rambling apology message. This could be out of control.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:03 PM   #37
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lol i'll have them notorized as well. I mean is an apology at the table enough?
1. Dude, YOU came on and started a thread asking about ettiquette. Peeps on here gave mostly constructive answers. No need to be condescending (but then again, you freely admitted your a Dick...)
2. Do you mean you said "NH" as in "Enn Eight-ch". That's not necessarily "Dick" behavior, imo, but it IS "Tool" behavior. The difference is intent, I guess. The same goes for "Gee Gee" (good game). This is obviously what set Villain off, as it comes off as a bit condescending (there you go again) and torpedos any sort of friendly gesture you may have intended.
3. Saying "Enn Eight-ch" or other chat shorthand screams to everyone that you play online poker allot. This can be a tell...
4. It doesn't pay to make enemies, IRL or on the felt. This guy might be the lone car passing you by as your broke down on the side of the road. Or maybe he hosts a really juicy homegame once a month. Lastly (and you certainly saw that here) others might witness your boorish behavior and make their own minds about you. Now you've got more enemies than you thought.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:31 PM   #38
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1. Dude, YOU came on and started a thread asking about ettiquette. Peeps on here gave mostly constructive answers. No need to be condescending (but then again, you freely admitted your a Dick...)
2. Do you mean you said "NH" as in "Enn Eight-ch". That's not necessarily "Dick" behavior, imo, but it IS "Tool" behavior. The difference is intent, I guess. The same goes for "Gee Gee" (good game). This is obviously what set Villain off, as it comes off as a bit condescending (there you go again) and torpedos any sort of friendly gesture you may have intended.
3. Saying "Enn Eight-ch" or other chat shorthand screams to everyone that you play online poker allot. This can be a tell...
4. It doesn't pay to make enemies, IRL or on the felt. This guy might be the lone car passing you by as your broke down on the side of the road. Or maybe he hosts a really juicy homegame once a month. Lastly (and you certainly saw that here) others might witness your boorish behavior and make their own minds about you. Now you've got more enemies than you thought.
I actually said "nice hand" not "enn eight-ch" and I didn't say "gee gee".

Furthermore, I was serious about writing letters apologizing to people. Somebody said it was weird and another person went all over the top saying I should have them hand delivered by a professional service so I jokingly asked if they should be notarized as well.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:31 PM   #39
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Hire a scrivener to write your letters in calligraphy, then see if you can find a singing clown (or perhaps a 20s flapper) process server to hand-deliver them to your recipients for you.
this is what I was referring to
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You're over thinking all of this.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:00 PM   #41
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You're over thinking all of this.
Shall I just stfu and play?
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:00 PM   #42
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I actually said "nice hand" not "enn eight-ch" and I didn't say "gee gee".

Furthermore, I was serious about writing letters apologizing to people. Somebody said it was weird and another person went all over the top saying I should have them hand delivered by a professional service so I jokingly asked if they should be notarized as well.
Everyone is correct that at best, you are a tool.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:29 PM   #43
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I look at the bb who I play with a ton and we are always talking a little bit of **** to one another and he looks like he basically says he doesn't have **** and I just want to hit the road on the way home and flip my hand over and he takes a while and finally mucks.

Anyway he kind of says "I thought you would fold, can't believe you called" etc... so I basically say that I'm never folding there and he is obviously upset and says that he wants to play with me more and basically it ends with me saying I'm not going to another table and I go "good night man, nh" and he proceeds to flip out. I definitely did not intend to like be a dick with how I said "Nice hand" but I can see how it pissed him off.

I then have all these people telling me today I am a scum bag for saying NH after I beat him out of a huge pot, and I basically say I hope the kid is on life tilt and dumps thousands of dollars into the game and that I regret nothing.

Am I wrong here?
I would agree with most people here and say you were out of line and acting like a dick if it wasn't for the bolded above. You guys talk smack to each other often, so him flipping out doesn't really matter does it? I mean, you guys are constantly trying to get under each other's skin.

I'm a mild-mannered easy going guy at the table, but if someone does something in particular to annoy me I might do things back because, well, maybe I'm petty. If that person would get mad, I'd laugh.

Not a big deal. Just ignore everything and keep doing what you're doing and try to avoid this kind of crap in the future, as it doesn't help in any way, but could possibly hurt (just for the fact you're dealing with this at any level).
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:46 AM   #44
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Shall I just stfu and play?
Yes. Unless you go the full blown clown route with the letters LDO.

Otherwise you are heading towards Creepy_Guy_Behind_Bushes.gif territory.
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:50 AM   #45
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lol i'll have them notorized as well. I mean is an apology at the table enough?
You say you play with the guy all the time, take him aside next time you see him and say 'sorry for how things went last time we played together. I wasn't trying to be a douchebag but upon reflection realized that's how it came across'

Issue resolved, you handle it like a grown up (I'm 37 and I apologize every single day because I'm human) and you both can move on.

I will say when people tell me I played a hand badly I almost always reply with "You know what, you are probably right. I got caught up in the moment" or "You know what, you are probably right, I'm pretty tired today". They feel better because you have admitted you made a mistake (regardless of if you did), it also plants seeds about your play for next time. You can use that image later.
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