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07-28-2014 , 07:32 PM

gotf

adept

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 904

This one seems to fluster me.

Heads up on river, bet call. Bettor tables two cards and I call out hand. Player 2 stares at his cards and floats them to the board. If nothing happened they would have floated face up but one card hits the table at an angle and now i've got one card face up and one face down. Usually i just ask if that was a muck? but not sure

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07-28-2014 , 07:40 PM

Rawlz517

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 58,241

I think asking in that case is fine.

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07-28-2014 , 07:49 PM

JDiamond364

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,205

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Originally Posted by gotf

Usually i just ask if that was a muck? but not sure

Seems like an acceptable response to me.

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07-29-2014 , 10:20 AM

BigBlue56

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,964

If they were going to be face up, why a muck?

If they were going to be face down, and one flipped, they yeah, I'd confirm.

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07-29-2014 , 11:20 AM

psandman

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 15,829

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Originally Posted by BigBlue56

If they were going to be face up, why a muck?

If they were going to be face down, and one flipped, they yeah, I'd confirm.

There was a time when I would just flip that card up, since it was clear he was tabling the hand and it just bounced wrong. But I got tired of the arguments later from people who got hung up on the "the dealer should not turn up the cards" so I started pushing the down card back to the player so he could flip it up.

The advantage to asking are you mucking .... is that in the unlikely event the player has a few functioning brain cells left .... they might just say "Hey the dealer thought I might be mucking .... my hand might have gotten mucked .... maybe I shouldn't throw my cards anymore." --- Ok its kind of far fetched .. but it could happen.

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07-31-2014 , 11:16 AM

bulls_horn

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,406

If they've been correctly tabled, why would they be mucked? Seems like a slimy angle to lobby that a properly tabled hand be ruled dead because a card inexplicably turns back over.

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07-31-2014 , 11:42 AM

AngusThermopyle

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Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 14,929

As a player:
If my opponent does this, and it looks like he was trying to table the hand...just turn the other card face up and give the pot to the best hand.

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