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ok ive gotta protect my roll better so ill stick to -50 min buyin here in vegas ok ive gotta protect my roll better so ill stick to -50 min buyin here in vegas

06-08-2008 , 05:39 PM
guess i cant go back to rio and buyin $200 no more, since my $7000 i arrived in vegas with is now at $4100. but thats not where i lost it, i threw away way too much on video bj and poker machines, mostly on the machines at westin camisura and planet hollywood that let u play 5-7 hands at once.

now does everyone agree thats still enough for NL if i play $40-100 or $50-200 NL? its only $20 min buyin at billsgaming hall. (old barbarycoast). damn i wanted to have 30 $200 buyins at rio or ceasers, now all i got is 40 $100 buyins or 80 $50 buyins. and also about $550 of its tied up online still, the rest online im moving off AP today via moneygram.

question is which casinos do u suggest i play at in vegas sticking to low stakes? i like to shortstack and i also like to hit and run. LOL. im thinking good loose games are fitzgeralds, binions new 40 min buyins, (used to be $100) osheas --$50 min and filled with drunks, bills, tropicana, stratosphere, etc.

dam all my problems my own fault for playing them machines. btw my weekly room on bldr hwy is $271 a week.
06-08-2008 , 05:42 PM
p.s. would appreciate it if a good player in vegas area would sit behind me a little while and analyze my live cash game for tells. i dont think poker my problem though, i think my problems a lack of discipline. just let me know if u play low limits on a regular basis and which casinos in vegas u like.
06-08-2008 , 05:50 PM
you have 20 max buyins at 200nl still

oh that's your case money...
06-08-2008 , 05:52 PM
wow I dunno about the casinos, but generally live you can still play nl200 with NO PROBLEMS at all with a 4k BR. Just start tighting/soliding up and play abc poker. Maybe if you get under 3k consider moving down to nl100.

edit: or do you have to pay for food/hotel witht that 4k? Then ASAP bail and put 2k aside.
06-08-2008 , 06:01 PM
put 2k aside and play 200$ buyin
06-08-2008 , 06:06 PM
yeah im staying on bldr hwy $271 a week, near sams town, and that comes outta the $4100, and most of its on stars or in the bank. also im so used to buying in shortstack my whole life im afraid id be at a psychological disadvantage if i bought in for more--would worry about negative fluctuations too much. also once i get up i run next door and then rebuy in again for the minimum. would like suggestions of which local casinos in vegas to play at, ideas on where the best games are with min buyins allowed below $100.

p.s. if i do go bust, i still get $3500 in back money from ssi coming about the beginning of next month. but im gonna do whatever it takes not to. id find a lower weekly motelif i knew i could still have net access.
06-08-2008 , 06:09 PM
i might have enough to try 2-3 $200 buyins in the $2-5 game, but id rather do $50-100 buyins in the 1-2 game. however if i put $2000 aside then i wouldt have a big enough roll to play NOTHING. all i really need to win is $75 a day, that would pay my weekly exenses, build my roll about $250 a week and keep me from going bust too. and im good enough to win $200 a day,,had i not been a dam fool and wasted it all on machines. what really scares me is the feel i might do it again. thats why i wish i had a mentor to watch over me.
06-08-2008 , 06:10 PM
suggest diff casino in vegas area, u play at, and tell me wheres the good games. (good meaning easy to win in low stakes, and always going.)
06-08-2008 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
suggest diff casino in vegas area, u play at, and tell me wheres the good games. (good meaning easy to win in low stakes, and always going.)
Is this a serious question? Low stakes IS easy to win at, LOL. Most places have low stakes going round the clock. It's not really tough to find a game except a lot of the smaller rooms probably won't have any or very little action after 4am till around noon.
06-08-2008 , 11:09 PM
hmmm perhaps get good at poker, not have to buy in 20 BBs and run to the shanty next door if you get omg 30 BB deep

also living expenses /= bankroll
06-08-2008 , 11:16 PM
stories like this remind me why i hate poker/gambling/life
06-09-2008 , 01:19 AM
And how long are u staying @ the motel ? ... throughout the WSOP ?
06-09-2008 , 06:51 AM
Geez I`m shocked most havent seen through this guys intelligence. Please consider just playing penny home games.
06-09-2008 , 08:41 AM
if you blow 4k playing 1-2 in vegas,you should probibly quit playing poker....
06-09-2008 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by wyndam
if you blow 4k playing 1-2 in vegas,you should probibly quit playing poker....
As I was reading through the thread I was thinking of a nice way to write the above, but it's too late now. I'm glad you're open to coaching though. Tell's won't be your issue at 1-2NL unless you have a nervous tic where you yell out your hand or something.

If you get really desperate, load up your iPod (this will be really boring), go downtown and buy in for the min at any 2-5 game, wait for AA/KK and shove. Double up and go to the next casino. Repeat. Optionally, get loaded on the free drinks, or not if you can't stay away from the VP and slots.
06-09-2008 , 11:59 AM
OP should go play NL1/2 at MGM where the min buy is $40. He'll lose slower that way.
06-09-2008 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wyndam
if you blow 4k playing 1-2 in vegas,you should probibly quit playing poker....
Reading comprehension FTW....I would call you a name but I know I can't get away with it like Bob and I attempt to be more mature.
06-09-2008 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
now does everyone agree thats still enough for NL if i play $40-100 or $50-200 NL?
It's enough to play profitably and build up your roll with little risk of ruin -- IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES IN SHORT-STACK PLAY ENOUGH TO BEAT IT.

You'll be playing very tight, waiting for a premium hand and trying to get all-in with it ASAP.

If Vegas small-stakes games are like other places, I have no doubt that the super-tight strategy of Miller's GSIHE (AK, TT+ in EP; AQ, 99+ in MP; AT+, KQ, 77+ in LP; bring in for a raise; OK to limp in with small pairs or SCs in LP; decide whether to call reraises behind you based on your remaining stack size) would be profitable.

Would it be interesting to play? Well, um, no. But if you're short-rolled, having fun playing poker is probably secondary.

In any case, NO "BANKROLL" IS ENOUGH IF YOU CAN'T BEAT THE GAME YOU'RE PLAYING IN. You might just be running really bad but the fact that you can't keep from blowing "bankroll" on video poker doesn't suggest that you have the discipline to play a winning short-stack strategy.

Last edited by AKQJ10; 06-09-2008 at 01:03 PM.
06-09-2008 , 12:56 PM
Shorter Black Aces 518:

Please buy in deep and play a game that you're apparently not very good at to prove your virility so that I can take more of your money.
06-09-2008 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
Shorter Black Aces 518:

Please buy in deep and play a game that you're apparently not very good at to prove your virility so that I can take more of your money.
i didn't say "oh just buy in 200BB deep", I said he should worry more about improving than at what dive he can buy in for $20 in a 1/2 game, double up, then spend $10 on cab/gas to find the next dive, so he can buy back in for $20.

EDIT to add: I am def not a big braggin baller, and I don't do things at a poker table to prove the size of my manhood. That said, if you aren't profitable buying in $100 at a standard Vegas 1/2 game, may want to reconsider making that your source of income, esp if you also have a video poker itch you must scratch.
06-09-2008 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
That said, if you aren't profitable buying in $100 at a standard Vegas 1/2 game, may want to reconsider making that your source of income, esp if you also have a video poker itch you must scratch.
Agreed, good points.

Actually you telling the OP to get better at poker is also good advice.
06-09-2008 , 03:18 PM
actually since i came to vegas with the $7000 a week ago, im actually up about $600 at poker. (mostly in 1-2 NL). doesnt count the $900 i dropped at rio in the $2-5 PL hilo the morning i was half asleep. all the losses went to video poker and video blackjack machines. and about $600 of it went on miscellaneous hotel, laundry and transportation expenses. im still holding onto close to $4300, which isnt too bad a roll.

i found a good game yesterday u all should come play in. ($1-2 PL omaha half hi half hilo.)its at binions and the min buyin only $100 and there is NO max buyin. i won $437 in it but only managed to leave $168 ahead, after stopping by the video BJ machine that plays 7 hands at once and only pays back 97%.

my roll would probably be about $12000 instead of $4300 if id played only games i shouldve played since i left home on april 10th and removed my whole $1800 from online and started playing live. (since then ive redeposited some more online.) also if id not gave that woman in louisiana $1000 that wouldve helped too.
06-09-2008 , 03:24 PM
losing $4k or even 2k in $1-2 Nl would be almost impossible. the only way ill lose is if i play games i shouldnt. (non poker games). wish the $50 min buyin game at fitzgeralds went more often. i am sure if me and any of u both came to vegas with only $1000 and both played nothing but poker, id challenge anyone i could outlast them. but playing only poker is hard since u fold 95% of the time.

but where are the suggestions as to which casinos to play in in vegas? (except the one suggestion for the mgm, but thats a ways out, there are closer games also with a low buyin. binions reduced their min buyin to $40 on may 28, it used to be $100. also osheas im sure has much better action than mgm. (due to the location of the tables next to front door, its full of drunks.)
06-09-2008 , 03:25 PM
what id love is for someone to watch me play and then make suggestions afterwards.
06-09-2008 , 03:25 PM
so let me get this straight:

a week ago you brought $7k to Vegas to live on AND play poker with. Since then, you are down about $2300 at video poker and blackjack??? LOLOL. I don't know if you need BR management or GA.

And def -EV to give a woman 1/8 of your case money. Pics?

      
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