Just wondering what Caesar's policy is on dealers and players socializing away from the casino. What would happen if someone's manager found out a player or players had loaned an employee - say a blackjack dealer - significant money?

I can't imagine that it would be regarded as anything good.

If the loan were legal and the player was the owner of a legitimate lending agency then there shouldn't really be a problem.

However, if the loan were not on any official books and the lender was not part of an authorized lending agency then I can't see how in the hell it would be a good thing as far as the casino or Nevada Gaming Agency would be concerned.

I would have to guess that it would be against official policy. I mean, how and why in the world would a multibillion dollar organization want to accept that risk/liability or the appearance of any impropriety...

I'd be curious to what those in the gaming industry have to say on the matter, but common sense to me would dictate it would not be a good thing.

no this is just a cash transaction between player and dealer. no official documents or loan business.

OP...not sure what you're getting at here, the title is mis-leading. I socialize w/ dealers all the time. I have one pretty close "freind" who is a dealer at the Wynn, two dealer freinds from the Bellagio, and one really good freind who is a poker dealer at Caesars. The poker community is pretty small, its common for dealers to be players and players to be freinds and socialize with each other.

However it sounds like you have malicious intent.

Like...your posting almost reads - "I'm going to try to go behind this persons back and get them in trouble because, bla, bla, bla..."

Sounds like personal issues, maybe there's a better way to handle this.

no, i am not the one who loaned this dealer money. someone else has and now the dealer is worried about it hurting her job.

I think it would be okay it probably is frowned upon. But the only way to take advantage of the dealer is to setup a spy of some sort to spot whole cards and with the amount cameras around i dont think anybody would be that stupid.

Why is it even an issue? I have plenty of friends that are dealers. If they get in a tight spot, I for some reason can't loan my friend money?

One of my best mates deal poker at the casino I frequent. He stays back to watch me play all the time. I don't think there is a rule about dealers socialising with players bro.

It can't be a big deal if they handle it outside of the casino.

Somewhat related story:
I was playing poker in a casino and as a new dealer sat down, he puts a $20 bill on the table in front of Seat 10 and says, "Can you do me a favor? Buy $20 of chips and put them in my tip box". Seat 10 and the rest of the table are confused, asking "Why? What's going on"? The dealer says he ran into someone who owed him money and he can't be carrying any around.

A thread from a couple of months ago had a link to Caesars' employee handbook. The answer will be in there. The dealer should have a copy of it or be able to get one.

I'll note that it is not unheard of for this to be a problem. There are federal regulations prohibiting those in the financial industry from giving or accepting loans from those not in the business of making loans. The rationale is that is that a deal can be made where inside information could be passed to allow the debtor to make money so the debt can be erased.

Therefore, I think a room would frown upon any type of loan agreement between a dealer and player. They may have a threshold number (under $50 is condoned), but certainly even if there wasn't a rule, I'd have a problem with an employee that had a private arrangement in the thousands of dollars with a player who didn't work at a bank.

Casinos generally prohibit employees from borrowing from players ..... but I don't think its so much a fear of inside information or the such. I think it comes down to what sort of business wants its employees bothering players to borrow money .... its the sort of thing that drives away business.

It's an extreme example, and I know it was just a movie, but Casino illustrated exactly what's wrong with this. Pesci's character ended up with a bunch of degenerate gambler dealers in his pocket through his loan-sharking activities and forced the dealers to go along with his cheating scams.

I would imagine that no business is ever happy to find out that an employee who handles cash has significant personal debts, whether dealer, cashier, bank teller, etc...

"Employees will not provide, request, and/or accept a loan from a guest, vendor, supervisor, subordinate or co-worker."

Dealer has reason to worry. Better pay back the loan.

hard to pay back a lot without a job. Kind of goes hand and hand eh?